Seasonic SS-350ATC 350W Internal Pictures (from Arctic Cooling Silentium T2 case)

Per Hansson · 12-26-2005, 08:58 AM

Here is a pretty cool Seasonic powersupply, it has two custom designed temperature controlled 80mm fans on it's top and is located at the bottom front (a la Lian-Li) of the Arctic Cooling Silentium T2 case. As far as I know this is the only place you will find this PSU.

It is rated at 350w

It has a 220uf primary cap that I would really like to know what manufacturer it has, according to an e-mail I got from Seasonic they use Hitachi caps in their powersupplies... It is makred "HP3 85°C 220uF 400VDC" and "38B5" on it's back... with this logo:

On the secondary side there is a real cocktail of capacitors... 6x United Chemi-con, 2x OST. 2x PCE-TUR and 1 Rubycon

Code:

BRAND:		Cap(uF)	VDC	Max Temp:	Date:		Model:	PCS:
PCE-TUR		  470uF	16v	105°C		   0401			1x
PCE-TUR	 	  47uF	25v	105°C		   0401			1x
Rubycon	 	  47uF	50v	105°C		  A0344		YXG	1x
United Chemi-con  220Uf	16V	(M)105°C	4(7) 3W		KMG	1x
OST		 4700uF	10v	105°C		   0430		RLS	2x
United Chemi-con 2200uF	10V	(M)105°C	4(7) 4a		KY	3x
United Chemi-con 1000uF	16v					KY	1x
United Chemi-con 2200uF	16v	(M)105°C	4(7) 6G		KZE	1x

Pulse Wide Modulation (PWM) and Power Factor Correction (PFC) Control Circuit by Infineon TDA 16888 (And a 47uF PCE-TUR cap)

The PSU looks a bit strange since there is no bottom; it is provided by the T2 case itself...

The fully assembled case in all it's glory, nevermind the "nice" caps on the mainboard

**willawake** · 12-26-2005, 12:59 PM

i think it looks professional to have the caps flat on the board rather than angled where necessary. good job and thanks for your great posts.

Per Hansson · 12-26-2005, 02:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by willawake

i think it looks professional to have the caps flat on the board rather than angled where necessary. good job and thanks for your great posts.

Yea I know, though this board was only for myself... Elfa in Sweden only carries Sanyo MW-WX caps (that are LOW-ESR caps that is) and the only 1500uF cap they stock is a 25v model, thus 12,5x25mm... So I had to tilt a few to be able to fit them... Only after that I learned that I could have used a higher farad rating instead (i.e. they have higher farad rated caps with lower voltages in stock...)

**willawake** · 12-26-2005, 02:10 PM

just to be sure, i meant if the caps dont fit then it looks professional to have them at 90 degrees rather than 45 etc.

i have also problem to find 8mm for instance so i recap like mickey mouse with 10mm. you can check my threads.

you can also secure caps at 90 degrees with a bit of hot glue to the board but there is usually no problem.

lets have another pic with the doors on to see it finished...

Per Hansson · 12-26-2005, 02:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oklahoma Wolf

Fear not - that is an actual Hitachi

Thanks for assuring me

Quote:

Originally Posted by willawake

just to be sure, i meant if the caps dont fit then it looks professional to have them at 90 degrees rather than 45 etc.

Ahh, mkay, I misunderstood you then

Quote:

Originally Posted by willawake

lets have another pic with the doors on to see it finished...

There, I'm off to bed now...

**willawake** · 12-26-2005, 02:49 PM

looks good

Chris1992 · 12-26-2005, 01:07 PM

never seen the Chemicon KY series... datasheet link?

**willawake** · 12-26-2005, 01:14 PM

http://www.chemi-con.com/files/KY.pdf

found at chemicon site

Oklahoma Wolf · 12-26-2005, 02:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Per Hansson

It has a 220uf primary cap that I would really like to know what manufacturer it has, according to an e-mail I got from Seasonic they use Hitachi caps in their powersupplies... It is makred "HP3 85°C 220uF 400VDC" and "38B5" on it's back... with this logo:

Fear not - that is an actual Hitachi

hkivan · 05-22-2006, 10:40 AM

FSP has a new VGA power.
It can work with your old seasonic together
by supplying 12V to graphic cards.
It may help.

Here is the review.
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/oth...vga-power.html

Per Hansson · 05-22-2006, 11:00 AM

That FSP PSU you linked hkivan sounds like the best idea for this

Because I do not know of any other PSU that has the same dimensions as this one has... It is not even close to any ATX spec I know of...

karalrs · 05-22-2006, 11:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Per Hansson

It is not even close to any ATX spec I know of...

the atx spec(dimensions) are for the outside box right?

the inside i believe its all about the same? some conductors , a board , etc...

**willawake** · 05-22-2006, 11:45 AM

Quote:

FSP has a new VGA power.

nice....i can think of a few other uses for a 12v active psu as well. i hope the fans are not poor endurance though, there does not appear to be much space for them.

hkivan · 05-22-2006, 12:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by willawake

nice....i can think of a few other uses for a 12v active psu as well. .

I already use a 12v PSU to power a 8cm fan
which attached on the heatsink of a subwoofer.
The small psu come with an external HD/DVD enclosure.

For the FSP VGA power, u may also make it
to power all those fans & blinking neons too.

karalrs · 05-22-2006, 12:59 PM

i was wondering if i could fit something like this?

Per Hansson · 05-26-2006, 09:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by karalrs

the atx spec(dimensions) are for the outside box right?

the inside i believe its all about the same? some conductors , a board , etc...

Just took mine apart to check, yes, while the case does not follow ATX spec the 4 mounting tabs inside it does. So you should be able to fit any standard ATX PSU PCB inside...

The PCB is 145x108mm with mounting holes 135x96mm apart...

The highest heatsink is 66.5mm above the underside of the PCB, however there is ca15mm left to the "top" of the case... There is also 11.5mm spacing on each side of the PCB measured on the long side (145mm) and ca5mm on the other sides respectivley...

You will of course also need to solder the 230v cable inside the new unit yourself...

The fans are 2x 80x80mm 45mm high, which was also the reason I took my unit apart:

Thankfully the other Fan did not also fall apart, otherwise I might have had another "Nexus NX-3000 experience"...

EDIT; Upon further inspection the motor spindle has actually broken off, the white stuff you see in the center of the fanblades is one part of the spindle, the rest was inside the motor itself... The spindle is made of cheramic...

Galvanized · 05-27-2006, 07:05 PM

If you send proof of case purchase, I would bet Arctic sends you a new fan..No charge. Those are gar-oon-teed for 6 years.

Ceramic bearings have many advantages but bendability and impact loading are not two of them. The stable dimention tolerance during manufacture/operation with heat gain, surface finish, hardness and porosity make ceramic a very advantagous bearing material. Scythe has a new line of quiet ceramic bearing fans. Zippy.Tw has been producing all kinds of ceramics for many years.

(I read one of your older posts)
You know the above from being involved in MotoGP because ceramic ball bearings are fast becoming a hot set-up in small displacement racing

I helped wrench on a friends son's TZ-250H or J (can't remember which) for two seasons.

gonzo0815 · 05-23-2006, 03:45 PM

I think the Seasonic Super Tornado or s12 series will probably fit in the case. The SS400FS will probably too and has a 21A rating at 12v. I think the pcb will prety mutch be the same size then any other ATX psu. Despite the realy good quality of the case, this customed and not that good PSu held me from buying this combo.
The design, conzept and quality of this case is excelent. The cooling power of this case is amazing, and very very silent.

Per Hansson · 05-28-2006, 02:39 AM

I fixed it with some Arctic Thermal Adhesive, got it almost perfect... Just a wee bit more wobble than the other fan...

I think I might have broken it myself when diassembling the case the first time, since the fan is so exposed it's easy to bend the fanblades when working on it... (plus the case is really cramped...)

karalrs · 05-31-2006, 02:23 PM

@Per Hanson : THANKS so much for the trouble you got into to open your case

conclusion of your post is that i take a normal power supply , i take the pcb out and i screw it inside the seasonic.
then i solder the electrisity wire and i am ok?
do i need bigger fans?

12-26-2005, 12:59 PM	#2
willawake Super Modulator Join Date: Nov 2003 City & State: Αθήνα Posts: 8,012	Re: Seasonic SS-350ATC 350W Internal Pictures (from Arctic Cooling Silentium T2 case) i think it looks professional to have the caps flat on the board rather than angled where necessary. good job and thanks for your great posts. __________________ capacitor lab yachtmati techmati

12-26-2005, 02:10 PM	#4
willawake Super Modulator Join Date: Nov 2003 City & State: Αθήνα Posts: 8,012	Re: Seasonic SS-350ATC 350W Internal Pictures (from Arctic Cooling Silentium T2 case) just to be sure, i meant if the caps dont fit then it looks professional to have them at 90 degrees rather than 45 etc. i have also problem to find 8mm for instance so i recap like mickey mouse with 10mm. you can check my threads. you can also secure caps at 90 degrees with a bit of hot glue to the board but there is usually no problem. lets have another pic with the doors on to see it finished...

12-26-2005, 02:49 PM	#6
willawake Super Modulator Join Date: Nov 2003 City & State: Αθήνα Posts: 8,012	Re: Seasonic SS-350ATC 350W Internal Pictures (from Arctic Cooling Silentium T2 case) looks good

12-26-2005, 01:07 PM	#7
Chris1992 Badcaps Veteran Join Date: Apr 2005 City & State: Michigan, USA Posts: 557	Re: Seasonic SS-350ATC 350W Internal Pictures (from Arctic Cooling Silentium T2 case) never seen the Chemicon KY series... datasheet link? __________________ The great capacitor showdown!

12-26-2005, 01:14 PM	#8
willawake Super Modulator Join Date: Nov 2003 City & State: Αθήνα Posts: 8,012	Re: Seasonic SS-350ATC 350W Internal Pictures (from Arctic Cooling Silentium T2 case) http://www.chemi-con.com/files/KY.pdf found at chemicon site

05-22-2006, 10:40 AM	#10
hkivan Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 City & State: Hong Kong Posts: 120	Re: Seasonic SS-350ATC 350W Internal Pictures (from Arctic Cooling Silentium T2 case) FSP has a new VGA power. It can work with your old seasonic together by supplying 12V to graphic cards. It may help. Here is the review. http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/oth...vga-power.html

05-22-2006, 11:00 AM	#11
Per Hansson Badcaps Veteran Join Date: Jul 2005 City & State: ---- My Country: Sweden Line Voltage: 230v 50Hz Posts: 2,500	Re: Seasonic SS-350ATC 350W Internal Pictures (from Arctic Cooling Silentium T2 case) That FSP PSU you linked hkivan sounds like the best idea for this Because I do not know of any other PSU that has the same dimensions as this one has... It is not even close to any ATX spec I know of...

05-22-2006, 12:59 PM	#15
karalrs New Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 17	Re: Seasonic SS-350ATC 350W Internal Pictures (from Arctic Cooling Silentium T2 case) i was wondering if i could fit something like this?

05-27-2006, 07:05 PM	#17
Galvanized Badcaps Veteran Join Date: Mar 2006 City & State: SoCal,USA Posts: 468	Re: Seasonic SS-350ATC 350W Internal Pictures (from Arctic Cooling Silentium T2 case) If you send proof of case purchase, I would bet Arctic sends you a new fan..No charge. Those are gar-oon-teed for 6 years. Ceramic bearings have many advantages but bendability and impact loading are not two of them. The stable dimention tolerance during manufacture/operation with heat gain, surface finish, hardness and porosity make ceramic a very advantagous bearing material. Scythe has a new line of quiet ceramic bearing fans. Zippy.Tw has been producing all kinds of ceramics for many years. (I read one of your older posts) You know the above from being involved in MotoGP because ceramic ball bearings are fast becoming a hot set-up in small displacement racing I helped wrench on a friends son's TZ-250H or J (can't remember which) for two seasons.

05-23-2006, 03:45 PM	#18
gonzo0815 Badcaps Veteran Join Date: Feb 2006 City & State: Germany Posts: 1,595	Re: Seasonic SS-350ATC 350W Internal Pictures (from Arctic Cooling Silentium T2 case) I think the Seasonic Super Tornado or s12 series will probably fit in the case. The SS400FS will probably too and has a 21A rating at 12v. I think the pcb will prety mutch be the same size then any other ATX psu. Despite the realy good quality of the case, this customed and not that good PSu held me from buying this combo. The design, conzept and quality of this case is excelent. The cooling power of this case is amazing, and very very silent.

05-28-2006, 02:39 AM	#19
Per Hansson Badcaps Veteran Join Date: Jul 2005 City & State: ---- My Country: Sweden Line Voltage: 230v 50Hz Posts: 2,500	Re: Seasonic SS-350ATC 350W Internal Pictures (from Arctic Cooling Silentium T2 case) I fixed it with some Arctic Thermal Adhesive, got it almost perfect... Just a wee bit more wobble than the other fan... I think I might have broken it myself when diassembling the case the first time, since the fan is so exposed it's easy to bend the fanblades when working on it... (plus the case is really cramped...)

05-31-2006, 02:23 PM	#20
karalrs New Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 17	Re: Seasonic SS-350ATC 350W Internal Pictures (from Arctic Cooling Silentium T2 case) @Per Hanson : THANKS so much for the trouble you got into to open your case conclusion of your post is that i take a normal power supply , i take the pcb out and i screw it inside the seasonic. then i solder the electrisity wire and i am ok? do i need bigger fans?

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