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  • drpj23
    Badcaps Veteran
    • May 2012
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    #1

    Vizio VW42LFHDTV10A - Only the logo light comes on :(

    Ok so ya, no screen (which means no image or backlight) and no sound...only the Vizio light came on.

    Opened it up and saw a bulged cap on the Master inverter so I replace both of those. With same results (except for one thing I'll explain later).

    I've read that a lot of the GV series has the regulator issue so I just decided to order a main board but that didn't change anything either.

    All the voltages check on the P/S and there are slots on each of the outputs to each inverter board and main labeled A, B, and C.
    A measures 2.267v
    B measures 4.8v
    and C isn't connected to anything.

    Now on the main board one of the transistors labeled U20 was outputting 3v while U15 and U19 (of the same kind) were outputting 5v. (I'll include a close-up)
    Is that supposed to be a regulator or...?

    Now, the one thing that did change after the caps were replaced was the behaviour of the blue LED on the master inverter board. Before it came on then abruptly went off. After, it smoothly fades away. When power is first cut on there is 3v to the LED but after about 2 secs there is 24v. Why is it doing that? (There is a close up of that (the LED is in between the two big caps)) Are the resistors bad?

    On either inverter, there are no voltages getting to the actual inverter itself but the board is being supplied adequate power.

    In one pics is a closeup of an IC (Master Inverter) that got chipped or maybe fried? But I was still hoping I would get a picture. So that could be the cause of the backlight failure but I am still a little puzzled about the LED.

    I guess too it would be good to mention that you must hold the power button to get to even cut on....sometimes......and like wise to cut it off but it then restarts itself after you cut it off.

    So if that is a regulator, would it cause all of this? Or something else?
    I am confused
    Sorry this is a lot.
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  • budm
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    • Feb 2010
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    #2
    Re: Vizio VW42LFHDTV10A - Only the logo light comes on

    Do you get 12V (for sound) and 24V (for backlights inverters) at the PS OUTPUT connectors? Also need closed up pictures of the power supply board
    Never stop learning
    Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

    Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

    Inverter testing using old CFL:
    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

    Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
    http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

    TV Factory reset codes listing:
    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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    • Mr Bill
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      • Nov 2011
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      #3
      Re: Vizio VW42LFHDTV10A - Only the logo light comes on

      That chip is cooked. You can see the damage even at the pin thats right in front of the hole.

      Does the tv turn off? In my experience with the bad regulators, the tv won't power off. Since you replaced the mainboard have you tried to shine a bright flashlight into the screen to see if you can see the "no signal"?

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      • drpj23
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        • May 2012
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        #4
        Re: Vizio VW42LFHDTV10A - Only the logo light comes on

        I get 5.45v for the speakers coming out the main board but I do have the 24v for the inverters.

        And I do not get anything on the screen, that's why I am wondering if that U20 was a or now is a failed regulator.

        As far as powering off, I do have to hold the button but after it shuts off it cuts back on.

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        • drpj23
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          • May 2012
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          #5
          Re: Vizio VW42LFHDTV10A - Only the logo light comes on

          Let me know if you need any other pics.
          Attached Files

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          • budm
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            • Feb 2010
            • 40746
            • USA

            #6
            Re: Vizio VW42LFHDTV10A - Only the logo light comes on

            As Bill pointed out, that PWM controller IC is blown, more likely to have bad MOSFETs also.
            I think they may need mod kit for the two inverter boards.
            You can buy repair kit (not mod kit) from Ebay.
            Very similar failure to this one:
            http://s807.photobucket.com/albums/y...VO42LFHDTV10A/
            Attached Files
            Never stop learning
            Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

            Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

            Inverter testing using old CFL:
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

            Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
            http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

            TV Factory reset codes listing:
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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            • drpj23
              Badcaps Veteran
              • May 2012
              • 528
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              #7
              Re: Vizio VW42LFHDTV10A - Only the logo light comes on

              Ok so once the inverters are fixed, am I still going to have a problem with getting a picture? But I suppose one fix at a time.

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              • budm
                Badcaps Legend
                • Feb 2010
                • 40746
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                #8
                Re: Vizio VW42LFHDTV10A - Only the logo light comes on

                We need to get backlights working so we can see the picture on the screen.
                What are the P/N on the inverter boards anyway?
                Never stop learning
                Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                Inverter testing using old CFL:
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                TV Factory reset codes listing:
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                • drpj23
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                  • May 2012
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                  #9
                  Re: Vizio VW42LFHDTV10A - Only the logo light comes on

                  I believe:
                  Master: 6632L-0470A
                  Slave: 6632L-0471A

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                  • budm
                    Badcaps Legend
                    • Feb 2010
                    • 40746
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                    #10
                    Re: Vizio VW42LFHDTV10A - Only the logo light comes on

                    Yep, they do need upgrading.
                    Never stop learning
                    Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                    Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                    Inverter testing using old CFL:
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                    Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                    http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                    TV Factory reset codes listing:
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                    • drpj23
                      Badcaps Veteran
                      • May 2012
                      • 528
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                      #11
                      Re: Vizio VW42LFHDTV10A - Only the logo light comes on

                      By upgrading do you mean an updated version of this board or just plain replacing?

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                      • budm
                        Badcaps Legend
                        • Feb 2010
                        • 40746
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                        #12
                        Re: Vizio VW42LFHDTV10A - Only the logo light comes on

                        You need to install all the added parts as shown in the PDF mod info I posted after you have replaced the IC (1) and MOSFETs (4) in each board.
                        Please note that they had issued the first mod and it did not fix the problem, so they released the second mod.
                        So I cannot tell if the second mod will actually fix the bad design to begin with, only time will tell.
                        Last edited by budm; 06-15-2012, 11:33 PM.
                        Never stop learning
                        Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                        Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                        Inverter testing using old CFL:
                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                        Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                        http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                        TV Factory reset codes listing:
                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                        • drpj23
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                          • May 2012
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                          #13
                          Re: Vizio VW42LFHDTV10A - Only the logo light comes on

                          Ok well I will prob get to that later (as I have other projects that need to get done).
                          But I want to know if that transistor in the last pic is supposed to produce 5v on the VI pin. The other ones have 5v on that pin but this has only like 3.3v.

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                          • budm
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                            • Feb 2010
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                            #14
                            Re: Vizio VW42LFHDTV10A - Only the logo light comes on

                            The 3-pin device is a LDO adjustable regulator (can tell by the two resistor between the left pin and ground and between left pin and the middle pin (the big tab is connected to the trimmed center pin).
                            If the regulator is good, there should be 1.25V between the left pin and the center pin.
                            In the input can be anything as long as the Vin is 1.2~1.4V higher than the required output voltage.
                            Never stop learning
                            Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                            Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                            Inverter testing using old CFL:
                            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                            Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                            http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                            TV Factory reset codes listing:
                            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                            • drpj23
                              Badcaps Veteran
                              • May 2012
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                              #15
                              Re: Vizio VW42LFHDTV10A - Only the logo light comes on

                              Ok so I have installed the new inverters from Coppell but I am still having the same issue....tv is still stubborn to cut on and only the logo light cuts on.
                              Is there any way to test the main board or does anyone else have any other ideas?

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                              • Mr Bill
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                                • Nov 2011
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                                #16
                                Re: Vizio VW42LFHDTV10A - Only the logo light comes on

                                Here is the service manual. Scroll down to the DC-DC converter and check the regulators.
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                                • tibimakai
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                                  • Jan 2012
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                                  #17
                                  Re: Vizio VW42LFHDTV10A - Only the logo light comes on

                                  I have the same issue with a VO42L. I have replaced both ICs and all eight FETs from both inverters and I have all the right voltages and still, the only thing that turns on is the logo turns white.
                                  Recently I have repaired a VW42L and only one regulator was bad on the mainboard(not sure which one though, it's been a while, maybe U7)

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                                  • drpj23
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                                    #18
                                    Re: Vizio VW42LFHDTV10A - Only the logo light comes on

                                    Thanks Mr Bill I will definitely get to that soon (been very busy recently) but ya I would think the back-lights would at least cut on unless the power supply can't sustain it under a load but I do not think that's the issue. The fact it has a hard time cutting on and won't cut off says Main board to me. But a while age i replaced the main board and got the same issue (maybe i got a dud?)....and U7 is some IC connected to the HDMI ports on this board.

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                                    • Chancey
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                                      • Aug 2012
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                                      #19
                                      Re: Vizio VW42LFHDTV10A - Only the logo light comes on

                                      Not wanting to hijack...making new thread
                                      Last edited by Chancey; 08-30-2012, 03:54 PM. Reason: not wanting to hijack

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                                      • drpj23
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                                        #20
                                        Re: Vizio VW42LFHDTV10A - Only the logo light comes on

                                        Ok got it working....somehow

                                        Ok I was finally getting back to this and testing voltages on the main and my lead accidentally shorted pin 2 and 3 of U20 and it cut the set off (well white logo to amber logo) and then I cut it back on and BACKLIGHT!! and blue screen with no signal text.

                                        So I have no idea why that worked but it's working.

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