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  • Cartel
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2006
    • 112

    #1

    Anyone recognise these?

    Alpine 445U

    Just curious what Apline uses these days.
    I think they are Panasonic

    thanks
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    Last edited by Cartel; 05-31-2017, 03:09 AM.
  • RukyCon
    A Fake Rubycon
    • Jan 2017
    • 816
    • USA

    #2
    Re: Anyone recognise these?

    Photos 1 & 3: 270uF 35V Capacitors. Photo #2: 390uF 25V capacitors. Odd values for capacitors.
    Last edited by RukyCon; 05-31-2017, 03:29 AM.
    I'm not a expert, I'm just doing my best.

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    • aztekk
      Member
      • Dec 2015
      • 22
      • USA

      #3
      Re: Anyone recognise these?

      They're Panasonic, since you didn't bother telling the diameter I can't say the exact series but at least FK,FC,FR have those values. Could be fake ones too.
      Last edited by aztekk; 05-31-2017, 06:28 PM.

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      • lti
        Badcaps Legend
        • May 2011
        • 2547
        • United States

        #4
        Re: Anyone recognise these?

        They look like FR series.

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        • Sparkey55
          Badcaps Legend
          • Jan 2010
          • 1523
          • USA

          #5
          Re: Anyone recognise these?

          Originally posted by ruky con
          Photos 1 & 3: 270uF 35V Capacitors. Photo #2: 390uF 25V capacitors. Odd values for capacitors.
          Not odd at all. 220-270-330-390-470 all normal steppings.

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          • RukyCon
            A Fake Rubycon
            • Jan 2017
            • 816
            • USA

            #6
            Re: Anyone recognise these?

            Weird, i've never seen them before.
            I'm not a expert, I'm just doing my best.

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            • Sparkey55
              Badcaps Legend
              • Jan 2010
              • 1523
              • USA

              #7
              Re: Anyone recognise these?

              You obviously have not been into vintage electronics for the last 40+ years of your life.

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              • stj
                Great Sage 齊天大聖
                • Dec 2009
                • 30952
                • Albion

                #8
                Re: Anyone recognise these?

                or read the datasheets

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                • rhomanski
                  nowhere man
                  • Dec 2009
                  • 5157
                  • U S of A

                  #9
                  Re: Anyone recognise these?

                  Or even lived forty+ years?
                  sigpicThe Sky Is Falling

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                  • RukyCon
                    A Fake Rubycon
                    • Jan 2017
                    • 816
                    • USA

                    #10
                    Re: Anyone recognise these?

                    I feel like i'm being shamed right now...
                    I do read datasheets.
                    I've taken apart many electronics new and old and never came across those two values but i have seen other "less common" ones like 150µf, 560µf and 68µf.
                    The reason why i've have not seen them in datasheets is because if i'm looking for a certain size i end up skipping over all of the others until i find the one i'm looking for.

                    I feel like i should just leave.
                    Last edited by RukyCon; 06-01-2017, 09:42 AM.
                    I'm not a expert, I'm just doing my best.

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                    • rhomanski
                      nowhere man
                      • Dec 2009
                      • 5157
                      • U S of A

                      #11
                      Re: Anyone recognise these?

                      Shame is good, builds character!

                      When you can bend over in the middle of Wal-mart and puke your guts out and not feel shame, you've got enough character. Not until.
                      sigpicThe Sky Is Falling

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                      • jazzie366
                        Badcaps Veteran
                        • May 2016
                        • 304
                        • United States

                        #12
                        Re: Anyone recognise these?

                        Originally posted by Cartel
                        Alpine 445U

                        Just curious what Apline uses these days.
                        I think they are Panasonic

                        thanks
                        As a car audio fnatic who does massive builds (6000W RMS, dual 15's in a coupe, etc.) I can tell you that Alpine is one of the best brands out there, right up there with JL Audio (JL is the best, hands down).

                        The last Alpine amp I had to open was one that was shaken so hard the pins that went from the PCB to the RCA jacks had broken off and shorted out all of the mosfets on one side, killing the amp completely.

                        However, the build was always amazing. Dual switching transformers, all caps were either Elna, Nichicon or Panasonic, never seen anything else inside them (except for older ones and some of the newer class D ones that have had NCC in them).

                        I would be extremely surprised if they were fake, especially considering how costly these amps are.

                        To put the cost of the amp in perspective, their 1000W class D monoblock is ~400$ depending where you get it. A standard class D amp from a brand like SoundStream (who also makes great stuff) is about 150$, both are certified to make their power AND have been tested to make more or over their rated power.

                        IMO, they're probably real panasonic caps, which wouldn't be anywhere out of the ordinary.

                        Also, Alpine makes the stereos in higher end Buick cars, and they make the stereos for Jaguar and a few others.
                        Popcorn.

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                        • stj
                          Great Sage 齊天大聖
                          • Dec 2009
                          • 30952
                          • Albion

                          #13
                          Re: Anyone recognise these?

                          alpine was the high end option in BMW's - not sure if it still is.
                          low end option was Blaupunkt!!!!!

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