So between the truck and the building at LANfest my friend dropped my computer. It seems to boot and SMART data shows no bad sectors but the read errors are going up rapidly. Is it broken?
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Didn't even pop the side panel yetOriginally posted by stj View Post
Everything seems to be working perfectly. I'll run an HDtune error scan and a SeaTools long test when I catch a few hours of sleep. So far so good. Basically it fell off the cart and everybody was like "OOOHHHH..." Thank god it was a shitty Dell Vostro 230 case (not the orignal internals of cuorse) not some fancy thing 
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i have a case for that type of treatment - came from ebay.
it has big rubber corners like a speaker box, and a handle on top.
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My laptop would not have even noticed the sudden change in height.Originally posted by shovenose View PostDidn't even pop the side panel yet Everything seems to be working perfectly. I'll run an HDtune error scan and a SeaTools long test when I catch a few hours of sleep. So far so good. Basically it fell off the cart and everybody was like "OOOHHHH..." Thank god it was a shitty Dell Vostro 230 case (not the orignal internals of cuorse) not some fancy thing 
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So far nothing seems wrong just a massive amount of raw read errors and seek error rate and that number keeps getting higher and higher insanely quickly.Comment
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In my experience once the error rates start ramping up on a disk, any error rates, the device will soon become useless. Dropping it may have broken off/knocked loose a bit of grit which is now dancing around on the platters. Get any data you want off that disk now.Originally posted by shovenose View PostComment
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yeah, that HDD is a goner... swap it NOW.sigpic
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Even if everything appears to be functioning normally and no bad sectors or pending sectors show up in the SMART data? I'm running a SeaTools Long Test on it at this time.Originally posted by ratdude747 View PostComment
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What brand of drive?Originally posted by shovenose View Post
Three years ago I knocked off a running 2TB samsung bare drive off my desk on to the floor, it made a loud bang. I thought for sure the drive was toasted. It was fine, the read and seek error rate kept climbing though. The drive is still running today without issues and in my desktop now.Comment
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SMART won't show any bad sectors until it reads them.Comment
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Errors in readings Seagate is a wrong value.
All seagates always worth reading errors are rising steadily, and this does not indicate a failure.
Look at my Seagate, it has the value of read errors that continues to rise, and already has 87,000 hours
The disc you can use, but do not use to store important things.
if the computer, she fell, off, I can say that this hard drive has not passed anything, because when you park off, and has a mechanism, in case of fall, the heads not moving.
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See here:
https://www.backblaze.com/blog-smart...014-8.html#S7R
And here (SMART 1: Read_Error_Rate):
https://www.backblaze.com/blog/hard-drive-smart-stats/"The one who says it cannot be done should never interrupt the one who is doing it."Comment
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All drives get read errors. They are going to increase over time. The SMART read error rate is basically useless information as the links that Per gives show. In addition, it doesn't tell us what sectors are associated with the errors, it could be the same sectors giving read errors over and over again. It does not indicate the drive will fail soon. Of course back up data important to you, which should be done anyway, continue to use the drive and keep an eye on it. I have seen LOTS of drives suffer a fall (in and out of computers) and keep working just fine for years. If you want to replace the drive anyway of course that is your choice.Comment
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Your drive not only has 87,157 power on hours but 2,348,146 power cycles.Originally posted by kevin! View PostErrors in readings Seagate is a wrong value.
All seagates always worth reading errors are rising steadily, and this does not indicate a failure.
Look at my Seagate, it has the value of read errors that continues to rise, and already has 87,000 hours
The disc you can use, but do not use to store important things.
if the computer, she fell, off, I can say that this hard drive has not passed anything, because when you park off, and has a mechanism, in case of fall, the heads not moving.
Bye
That's over 2 million power cycles! Don't you think that's a tad unhealty? 
I would also recommend replacing the OP's drive. Modern Seagate drives (desktop drives at least) aren't very good anyway.
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I don't know, I've seen just about all makes fail prematurely and I've seen all makes take a beating and get bad sectors and go on working fine for years. Modern drives in general aren't very good in my opinion. I don't always trust SMART data either. It's better than nothing to monitor disk condition though.Comment
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Personally I prefer Seagate over WD in recent years. 7200.11 and 7200.10 series were crap though. I have deployed many ST1000DM003 through clients, friends, personal computers, and work and have had good luck. The few WD10EZEX I have used have been good as well.Originally posted by SteveNielsen View Post
The older WD Blacks and Greens are absolute garbage. The latest ones are fine. It bothers me they have a half dozen series now though.Comment
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