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willawake 02-06-2005 05:50 AM

The Hall of Shame - Badcaps Photo Montage
 
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The next stage of this forum is to consolidate the data provided by posters. Here I will collect crops of the photographs provided to show pics of each manufacturers badcaps. Each photograph is credited to the poster, if you dont like your photo being used please post and i will remove it immediately.

Canicon
Chhsi
Choyo
CTC
Fuhjyyu
http://www.badcaps.net/forum/attachm...ntid=335&stc=1
http://www.badcaps.net/forum/attachm...ntid=336&stc=1
http://www.badcaps.net/forum/attachm...ntid=337&stc=1
Hermei
http://www.badcaps.net/forum/attachm...ntid=338&stc=1
Jackcon
JDEC
Jee
Jpcon
Jun-Foo
http://www.badcaps.net/forum/attachm...ntid=339&stc=1
Licon
Nrsy
Ost
Raycon
http://www.badcaps.net/forum/attachm...ntid=340&stc=1
Stone
Supacon
Su'scon
http://www.badcaps.net/forum/attachm...ntid=341&stc=1
Teapo
Tocon
Wendell

bushytails 02-06-2005 12:36 PM

Some random pics. Feel free to delete this post once you're done with it...

http://bushytails.net/~randyg/badcaps-chhsi.jpg
http://bushytails.net/~randyg/badcaps-choyo.jpg
http://bushytails.net/~randyg/badcaps-iq-2.jpg
http://bushytails.net/~randyg/badcaps-iq.jpg
http://bushytails.net/~randyg/badcaps-tayeh-2.jpg
http://bushytails.net/~randyg/badcaps-tayeh-3.jpg
http://bushytails.net/~randyg/badcaps-tayeh-4.jpg
http://bushytails.net/~randyg/badcaps-tayeh.jpg
http://bushytails.net/~randyg/p1010002-shrunk.jpg <== the two big ones are IQ, the smaller ones Choyo

Unfortunately, I wasn't trying to capture brand names when I took the photos, so they're not too visible on some of them...


--Randy

willawake 02-06-2005 01:07 PM

thanks i appreciate that, i am gonna try again tomorrow. It is more difficult than I thought because some posters dont make it clear which caps are which and I want to be careful.

i want to try to get as much as i can from the whole forum because i saw we already lost some great Fuhjyyu pics from last year. the poster deleted the pics and didnt hang around. i want to preserve the data.

yeah the brand names are not always visible, its not going to work that way anyway from what i have seen.

bushytails 02-06-2005 01:28 PM

Unfortunately, I only started taking photos when I found this forum... never thought before that they'd be useful.

I have more photos of those boards; feel free to ask if you want me to dig one up of something specific. And I haven't gotten around to throwing out any of the caps from these photos, so I can take close-ups of them on a white background if anyone wants.

And as soon as I fix my desoldering station, I'll work on recapping my other 694d, which should yield some _good_ pics of Chhsi caps (ranging from tiny caps to big 2700uf ones), so you might want to hold off making the chhsi image until I take them if you don't have any others...


--Randy

willawake 02-06-2005 02:34 PM

thanks it is all a work in progress, so anytime you come up with something new i will modify and update.

i think i will have probs with some of the more obscure manufacturers.

if you see anything visibly venting/leaking/severely bulging i would like a photo with the brand showing. olympus is the only way for those macros. as i update you will see the brands with no coverage.

the way i see it is to get it all on the net, whatever I am doing that is maybe useful for somebody. thats why i started my site. i take photos everytime i am doing an install or something. you should continue to take photos cos you write it up great.

bushytails 02-06-2005 03:15 PM

Anyone have a capacitance meter? Some brands (i.e. Teapo) tend to fail with no physical signs... best way to document them would be a photo of the capacitor's rating next to a photo of the meter reading far lower than it should...


--Randy

willawake 02-06-2005 03:36 PM

great idea but that limits to TC and KC8.....hello guys

bobcaygeon 02-08-2005 10:25 PM

Heres a pic of a bulging (though I dont know how obvious it is in the pic) Jun-Fu and Rulycon capacitor from a dreaded Deer power supply. http://home.comcast.net/~eb_0403/ran...s/P1010183.JPG

willawake 02-09-2005 03:54 AM

thanks a lot, an excellent rare pic . i have gotta get to work on this section soon.

Heh, you have an oly uzi, i have a 5050z. I thought that pic was looking olympus sharp. damn fine cameras. i have only ever owned olympus. Bushytails of these forums has one also.

Why dont you do a full post in "Other devices with bad capacitors" cos i will crop that pic for here.

kc8adu 02-09-2005 07:24 PM

i can send more pics.
btw the rulycon pics on the carpet are mine :-)
i think i have more rubycon fake pics too.
they are easy to find.just look in a powmax psu.at least they live up to the name.
another crap psu is a power.
a tech at the store had 6 of them on the bench that were doa.
mtbf if they work from new is 2 weeks.

willawake 02-10-2005 12:53 AM

Quote:

btw the rulycon pics on the carpet are mine
oops. i will fix that.

a guy on dslreports forums was highly recommending powmax to a noob :lol:

send some pics but it would be great also if you did a thread on spotting fake rubycon in the faq section.

Topcat 02-25-2005 09:34 PM

Here's a new brand I've never seen before........ This motherboard is out of an emachines model T1840 P4 system. The caps are branded "TMS".

http://www.badcaps.net/images/caps/e...40/em_0899.jpg

http://www.badcaps.net/images/caps/e...40/em_0900.jpg

willawake 02-26-2005 06:18 AM

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: you get an ATX connector instead of a AGP. I never understood that philosophy cos they could be selling their customers several graphics card upgrades over time. Those TMS caps look a bit like nichicon imitators

kc8adu 02-26-2005 10:20 AM

emachines are throwaway junk.you expect them to be easyly upgradable :?

MD Willington 03-01-2005 03:55 PM

TMS ... acronym for "Total Monkey Sh!t"

LOL

mhodge 09-24-2005 01:21 PM

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This is a Jamicon

Rainbow 09-24-2005 02:29 PM

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Isn't that the result of a failure instead of the cause? I've seen "unrolled" caps where the metal cover came totally off in failed PSUs - the voltage goes too high and the cap explodes.

mhodge 09-24-2005 05:00 PM

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Isn't that the result of a failure instead of the cause?
{Shrug} The same could be said for any cap. PSU runs fine after a replacement cap was installed.

Jordan 10-01-2005 06:59 PM

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[IMG]http://img384.**************/img384/2258/dsc011416yh.th.jpg[/IMG]

G-Luxon caps on a Matsonic Ms8308EP

Got 9 bulged and 4 leaky before she decided to not POST.

-Jordan

arneson 10-02-2005 01:57 AM

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My gateway has TMS.

bushytails 10-03-2005 03:34 PM

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Mentioned bad caps on irc to someone, and he got this photo...

http://www.rifraf.info/images/hp_caps.jpg

More "TMS" caps, this time out of a HP system. he can't find any other brand on them either.

Willawake, want to add TMS to the photo montage?

--Randy

willawake 10-03-2005 03:51 PM

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aw that is just gross. they have expensive rubycon MBZ there as well.

do we have permission to use the pic? it is a great pic. what happened to the 2 removed fets? toast?

AK0R 10-04-2005 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by willawake
what happened to the 2 removed fets? toast?

They probably died when the capacitors gave up the ghost. Either he took them off because they're DEAD, or they got so hot, they melted themselves off the board.

Rainbow 10-04-2005 12:08 PM

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It looks like they were never there - just a manufacturing option.

willawake 10-04-2005 12:59 PM

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dont tell mikey he has an even better animated chick on his site http://www.rifraf.info/

Newbie2 10-04-2005 04:21 PM

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I have the same motherboard that you guys have reported to have bad TMS caps! http://3dgameman.com/forums/images/smilies/jawsdown.gif It is just not used currently and is in an anti-static bag right now. My looking on that motherboard I have, there are United Chemi-Con and Sam-Young caps where the TMS caps would go. In the back strangely there are three good G-Luxon general purpose caps on the motherboard I have in a bag. In the front of the board there are three Rubycon MBZ caps and the two good brands of caps I can see on my board in a bag is the Rubycon and United Chemi-Con caps. The Sam-Young caps on the the bad cap list but they haven't failed yet.

bushytails 10-04-2005 08:42 PM

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I don't think it had FETs there; not only do the pads look like nothing was soldered there, but he said the board still works great, he just put in the spare pile when he noticed the caps. (knowing it might not work great for much longer. heh.)

I'll ask him about photo permission next time I see him.

--Randy

kc8adu 10-05-2005 01:22 AM

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tms=too much shit?
btw the "missing" parts are for an optional phase not used on this model.

UraBahn 12-08-2005 10:48 AM

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BTW, you can use my photo of the YEC in the Photo Montage if you like.
UraBahn

Newbie2 12-09-2005 06:39 PM

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TMS caps are very bad. Instead of the usual yellow/orange stuff we see come out of other caps we see TMS caps leak out chunks of dark brown stuff. Yuck.

larrymoencurly 01-16-2006 02:49 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by bushytails
Anyone have a capacitance meter? Some brands (i.e. Teapo) tend to fail with no physical signs... best way to document them would be a photo of the capacitor's rating next to a photo of the meter reading far lower than it should...

--Randy

Every bad cap I've had, except for shorted ones, tested fine for capacitance, including the Fuhjyyus from my Antec and the 1uF I replaced a few days ago for my TV (lower half of picture really stretched out). OTOH their ESRs were all high, again except for the shorted ones.

PeteS in CA 01-16-2006 09:04 AM

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Many of my "torture" victims can be double or triple the rated Z, but the capacitance is still in-spec (though much reduced from the initial C - +/-20% is a really loose standard).

bobcaygeon 01-16-2006 12:43 PM

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Heres a failed Fulltec (bulged), Jee (bulged), and a CS (bulged with junk coming out the top) capacitor from a group that I pulled from an older rebadged Leadman LP-8800D that I was recapping "for fun". Ironically, the only cap that was still good (or at least looked good) in the O/P section was a 1000uF Fujiyyu, so you know if the Fujiyyu surived these must be bad. :eek: :)

dood 02-03-2006 08:44 PM

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Here are some GL caps from an older Biostar slot A motherboard:

http://www.king-nerd.com/dood/images...d_100_1460.jpg

http://www.king-nerd.com/dood/images...d_100_1461.jpg

http://www.king-nerd.com/dood/images...d_100_1462.jpg

These four were clustered around two MOSFET heatsinks that get very hot. Out of the 12 total caps on the board, these were the only 4 failed. Board was still working fine, but for longevitys sake, I replaced those 4.

trodas 02-08-2006 01:16 PM

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Time for my submission. Two bad Chemi-con KZG 1500uF 16V caps from DFI LP B mobo (tought the rest looking quite OK, so maybe the one is just faulty and drag down the other one with it?) - pics can moderator took from my thread about it there: http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...?t=1345&page=2 (likely the 4th one or so - your pick - or the second one? ;) )

http://ax2.old-cans.com/badthingshap...20badcaps3.jpg


Now my Epox 8RDA+ caps - one example cap, two pictures:
http://ax2.old-cans.com/badthingshap..._Epox8RDA+.jpg
http://ax2.old-cans.com/badthingshap...Epox8RDA+2.jpg
Cap type 2200uF 10V GCS (re) 105CT31A

Friend old dead (burned mosfets because caps lost their capacity) ECS K7S5A mobo:
http://ax2.old-cans.com/badthingshap...s_ECSK7S5A.jpg
Cap type 2200uF 6.3V G-LUXON LZ 105C 1117 (M)

Enjoy! ;)

Newbie2 02-08-2006 03:30 PM

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In the first three pictures, why are the failed caps in PCI slots?

The ECS K7S5A motherboard has been known here to catastrophically fail when the caps go bad in the MOSFET area, killing the MOSFETs.

trodas 02-08-2006 06:35 PM

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Well, because I obviously desoldered them from the mobo ;)
You want me to solder them back in order to take a photo? :D

PeteS in CA 02-08-2006 11:04 PM

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While UCC KZG series caps are not suitable for trodas's system, they are not bad caps in the common usage of Badcaps Forums, as I understand it anyway.

trodas 02-09-2006 04:10 AM

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I do believe that one of the cap (the burned-looking one) was faulty and dragged down the other too by excessive overheaing and losing capacity - therefore stressing the other one over the limits to the breaking point...

At least that is what I think happend. :pimp:

Still, they did go and ain't quietly, after all :p:

willawake 02-09-2006 04:19 AM

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While UCC KZG series caps are not suitable for trodas's system, they are not bad caps in the common usage of Badcaps Forums, as I understand it anyway.
until we see more reports of fails they are considered ok. Guys, please continue the discussion on trodas' thread.


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