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    #21
    Re: QW-MS3010D 30V 10A Variable PSU Blown MOSFET

    Originally posted by sam_sam_sam View Post
    How long did you have them in storage because I have had some that I have bought at least 5 years or more and have had no issues using them I have values from 0.47UF to 47000UF

    One thing that I do power on the device at low load and leave it powered on for hours to at least 24 hours before turning the device off

    Then use the device normally after this
    It's not how long i had them in storage, it's how long the store (that i bought them from) had them in storage. But i reformed them (according to the instructions i found online) and they seem to work fine.

    I'll plug a small load into it tomorrow and leave it plugged in and see if it holds up.
    I'm not a expert, I'm just doing my best.

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      #22
      Re: QW-MS3010D 30V 10A Variable PSU Blown MOSFET

      I have an QW-MS605D (same basic circuit as the 3010D except for a few components) the IRF840s in mine failed while running a 200W load. While it failed, it took out Q4, Q5, Q6 and Q7 - as well as the gate resistors. They are 47 ohms as well. The KA7500 was unharmed, and used some salvaged 2SK2915s from an old Delta PSU instead of more IRF840s. It now can do its full 300W without the primary FETs failing.

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        #23
        Re: QW-MS3010D 30V 10A Variable PSU Blown MOSFET

        Isn't the MS605D the 60V 5A version? I'm also wondering if i could use this in series with another identical power supply to get a higher voltage (i have two of these things, the second one was a free replacement for the first), IIRC the owners manual said they could be used in series, but to contact the supplier, but i don't remember who i got them from (and eBay seems to have also forgotten).

        I did a burn-in test and it seems to work fine.
        I'm not a expert, I'm just doing my best.

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          #24
          Re: QW-MS3010D 30V 10A Variable PSU Blown MOSFET

          Yes, it is. Yes, you can put them in series. However unground the outputs.

          Another common problem with these power supplies is the P75NF75 linear regulator FET fails D-S. (makes the supply lose regulation and mashes the output at 100% power)

          These supplies are alright after you know their quirks...

          The way you can cause that FET to fail is...

          1. When you short the output when you set the voltage too high, hence dumping the supply's cap into the linear regulator FET, shorting drain-source.

          2. Disconnect the load (esp. if an inductive load) while the supply is on. This scenario can cause inductive spiking, can cause the FET to short.

          When this happens, the supply popped the output caps once on me. Mine had 2x 63V 330u caps, those vented, installed 1x 330u 100V and 2x 150u 100V. All Rubycon ZLHs. And I've got a few spare FETs.

          Try to not do the two scenarios and your supply should do you well.
          Last edited by pc7fan; 06-18-2020, 08:14 PM.

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            #25
            Re: QW-MS3010D 30V 10A Variable PSU Blown MOSFET

            Originally posted by pc7fan View Post
            Yes, it is. Yes, you can put them in series. However unground the outputs.

            Another common problem with these power supplies is the P75NF75 linear regulator FET fails D-S. (makes the supply lose regulation and mashes the output at 100% power)

            These supplies are alright after you know their quirks...

            The way you can cause that FET to fail is...

            1. When you short the output when you set the voltage too high, hence dumping the supply's cap into the linear regulator FET, shorting drain-source.

            2. Disconnect the load (esp. if an inductive load) while the supply is on. This scenario can cause inductive spiking, can cause the FET to short.

            When this happens, the supply popped the output caps once on me. Mine had 2x 63V 330u caps, those vented, installed 1x 330u 100V and 2x 150u 100V. All Rubycon ZLHs. And I've got a few spare FETs.

            Try to not do the two scenarios and your supply should do you well.

            If this is true what you have here then correct me if I am wrong but this to me is poorly designed switching power supply
            9 PC LCD Monitor
            6 LCD Flat Screen TV
            30 Desk Top Switching Power Supply
            10 Battery Charger Switching Power Supply for Power Tool
            6 18v Lithium Battery Power Boards for Tool Battery Packs
            1 XBox 360 Switching Power Supply and M Board
            25 Servo Drives 220/460 3 Phase
            6 De-soldering Station Switching Power Supply 1 Power Supply
            1 Dell Mother Board
            15 Computer Power Supply
            1 HP Printer Supply & Control Board * lighting finished it *


            These two repairs where found with a ESR meter...> Temp at 50*F then at 90*F the ESR reading more than 10%

            1 Over Head Crane Current Sensing Board ( VFD Failure Five Years Later )
            2 Hem Saw Computer Stack Board

            All of these had CAPs POOF
            All of the mosfet that are taken out by bad caps

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              #26
              Re: QW-MS3010D 30V 10A Variable PSU Blown MOSFET

              The PSU design itself is OK, it's the parts that are not adequate for its rating, but after doing my modifications, it can deliver its full 300W and can short it without breaking anything. It was built down to cost but as a basic bench PSU, it's fine as long you know its limitations (there are many). In stock form, I wouldn't run the supply or any of its variants over 150W continuous.
              Last edited by pc7fan; 06-20-2020, 09:16 AM.

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                #27
                Re: QW-MS3010D 30V 10A Variable PSU Blown MOSFET

                Well, the power supply is back on the healing bench, as the voltage regulation has gone out the window, especially at lower voltages, the main transformer also makes this awful and inconsistent hissing sound, The unit also seems to shut down randomly at voltages below 6v, and only restarts after the voltage drops to 0v. I did swap a few caps on the control side of the circuit, but stopped since it wasn't making any visible change to the condition of the unit. I also checked the primary caps, and they seem fine, so i'm not quite sure what to do next.
                I'm not a expert, I'm just doing my best.

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                  #28
                  Re: QW-MS3010D 30V 10A Variable PSU Blown MOSFET

                  So the CC isn’t working properly? Maybe look at the sensing circuit.

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                    #29
                    Re: QW-MS3010D 30V 10A Variable PSU Blown MOSFET

                    The thing is, the PSU isn't going into constant current mode when this happens, and i've triple checked it just to make sure.
                    I'm not a expert, I'm just doing my best.

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