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    #81
    Re: Has anyone had issues with Rayovac Alkaline batteries leaking

    I have to decide what I going to do with the Rayovac batteries that I have that are prone to leaking I would like to get some use out of them anyone have any ideas
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    These two repairs where found with a ESR meter...> Temp at 50*F then at 90*F the ESR reading more than 10%

    1 Over Head Crane Current Sensing Board ( VFD Failure Five Years Later )
    2 Hem Saw Computer Stack Board

    All of these had CAPs POOF
    All of the mosfet that are taken out by bad caps

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      #82
      Re: Has anyone had issues with Rayovac Alkaline batteries leaking

      in the old days, batteries were inside a cardboard sleeve that went into the battery holder - i wonder if it was to catch leaks?

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        #83
        Re: Has anyone had issues with Rayovac Alkaline batteries leaking

        Originally posted by stj View Post
        in the old days, batteries were inside a cardboard sleeve that went into the battery holder - i wonder if it was to catch leaks?
        You have to wonder if was why they that back in the day the thing was if they did leaked it made a mess
        Last edited by sam_sam_sam; 11-06-2021, 10:24 AM.
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        These two repairs where found with a ESR meter...> Temp at 50*F then at 90*F the ESR reading more than 10%

        1 Over Head Crane Current Sensing Board ( VFD Failure Five Years Later )
        2 Hem Saw Computer Stack Board

        All of these had CAPs POOF
        All of the mosfet that are taken out by bad caps

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          #84
          Re: Has anyone had issues with Rayovac Alkaline batteries leaking

          well zinc carbon batteries leak a liquid and not a vapor so card would soak it up.

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            #85
            Re: Has anyone had issues with Rayovac Alkaline batteries leaking

            I am going to answer this question once and for all about the variances between lot number of one expiration date and the lot number of a different expiration date and see how much difference in amp hours there is because I want to know if there is anything to this crap or there might be something to this but if this is the case I really would not have any confidence in there product at all and it will be because of quality issues ( weather this because of different quality of metal used different quality of electrolyte it does not matter what the issue is it still a quality issue now if is because of EPA regulations of different ingredients that can not be used anymore this is hole another issue that they do not have control over but if you can not make product that does not leak any more stop selling the product until you find a solution for the issue ) with there products and that these companies do not care about what product they are selling anymore

            One note about the leaking issue with this type of battery why not put a CID on Alkaline battery if internal pressure builds up and it has to release the excess pressure and make the battery inoperable I would be all for it if it would stop them from leaking all over the place or use a thicker metal and seal material what ever you need to do to make it less likely to leak yea I know it would make the cost of them to be more ok so be it if you want to stop having clams against your products

            or put a disclaimer on your product that says the following that these might leak just sitting in storage or if expiration date has passed or if use different expiration date in a device or if you use new and old batteries in a device which is already there—> this would be a much to do by the customer take a volt meter and check the battery voltage of each and every cell and do not use them if the voltage difference of 0.20 volts yea I know I am asking the customer to do to much to use this product

            I will post the results of the testing results maybe today or sometime this week
            Last edited by sam_sam_sam; 11-07-2021, 02:33 AM.
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            These two repairs where found with a ESR meter...> Temp at 50*F then at 90*F the ESR reading more than 10%

            1 Over Head Crane Current Sensing Board ( VFD Failure Five Years Later )
            2 Hem Saw Computer Stack Board

            All of these had CAPs POOF
            All of the mosfet that are taken out by bad caps

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              #86
              Re: Has anyone had issues with Rayovac Alkaline batteries leaking

              Alkaline batteries internally make hydrogen gas when they're discharging due to use or storage, or see reverse polarity (imbalanced string). They need to burp.
              Problem is that also spits out caustic electrolyte, which then wicks/creeps along things due to the tiny current leakage of the wet film. The common narrative is all of this was not a problem with old battery's added mercury- which stopped the offgassing. But that ban started in 1996! so say 20 years ago. Rayovac went bankrupt in 2009, $4.4B in debt then Spectrum Brands like another P&G mega-corp has them. So they are just an acquired brand name.

              What's weird today is many alkaline batteries leak badly, but others do not.
              Something nose-dived in the race to the bottom for price. It's like a casino in Vegas. Duracell are the worst- even their "made in USA" ones piss just as well as ones made in Indonesia etc. regardless of lot # or expiry date.

              So that looks like a quality problem has come in. I took one apart and the seal is a polypropylene piston with some bitumen, for Duracell or Energizer. Either the seal is crap or the battery's chemistry makes too much gas, or both.
              Too bad they continue to "blame the customer" instead of fixing their crappy product, and make guarantee claims impossibly difficult.

              Note the government definition of "Made in USA" changed, I expect wording on batteries to get cleaned up. Hear that Duracell and Mr. Buffett?
              FTC Cracks Down On Violations of Newly-Codified “Made in USA” Claims Rule
              "August 13, 2021, the new rule, codified at 16 C.F.R. Part 323, prohibits labeling any product as “Made in the United States” unless “the final assembly or processing of the product occurs in the United States,” “all significant processing that goes into the product occurs in the United States,” and “all or virtually all ingredients or components of the product are made and sourced in the United States.”
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                #87
                Re: Has anyone had issues with Rayovac Alkaline batteries leaking

                Originally posted by redwire View Post
                Alkaline batteries internally make hydrogen gas when they're discharging due to use or storage, or see reverse polarity (imbalanced string). They need to burp.
                Problem is that also spits out caustic electrolyte, which then wicks/creeps along things due to the tiny current leakage of the wet film. The common narrative is all of this was not a problem with old battery's added mercury- which stopped the offgassing. But that ban started in 1996! so say 20 years ago. Rayovac went bankrupt in 2009, $4.4B in debt then Spectrum Brands like another P&G mega-corp has them. So they are just an acquired brand name.

                What's weird today is many alkaline batteries leak badly, but others do not.
                Something nose-dived in the race to the bottom for price. It's like a casino in Vegas. Duracell are the worst- even their "made in USA" ones piss just as well as ones made in Indonesia etc. regardless of lot # or expiry date.

                So that looks like a quality problem has come in. I took one apart and the seal is a polypropylene piston with some bitumen, for Duracell or Energizer. Either the seal is crap or the battery's chemistry makes too much gas, or both.
                Too bad they continue to "blame the customer" instead of fixing their crappy product, and make guarantee claims impossibly difficult.

                Note the government definition of "Made in USA" changed, I expect wording on batteries to get cleaned up. Hear that Duracell and Mr. Buffett?
                FTC Cracks Down On Violations of Newly-Codified “Made in USA” Claims Rule
                "August 13, 2021, the new rule, codified at 16 C.F.R. Part 323, prohibits labeling any product as “Made in the United States” unless “the final assembly or processing of the product occurs in the United States,” “all significant processing that goes into the product occurs in the United States,” and “all or virtually all ingredients or components of the product are made and sourced in the United States.”
                This says a lot and some more reasons WHY I am NOT going to buy anymore of this type of battery until all of them get there shit together
                Last edited by sam_sam_sam; 11-08-2021, 03:31 PM.
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                These two repairs where found with a ESR meter...> Temp at 50*F then at 90*F the ESR reading more than 10%

                1 Over Head Crane Current Sensing Board ( VFD Failure Five Years Later )
                2 Hem Saw Computer Stack Board

                All of these had CAPs POOF
                All of the mosfet that are taken out by bad caps

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                  #88
                  Re: Has anyone had issues with Rayovac Alkaline batteries leaking

                  Price out using Energizer ultimate lithium cells, at first they look more expensive but they have longer life. And start out a bit higher voltage 1.8V but say almost 2x price yet 3x capacity.
                  I found 9V L522 at Home Depot and going to use in my multimeters.
                  For AA, AAA : rechargeable Eneloops or Ikea Ladda are what I use now.

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                    #89
                    Re: Has anyone had issues with Rayovac Alkaline batteries leaking

                    The voltage of 1.8 is going to be a problem for digital devices in general the question I have is why does the voltage need to be that high
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                    These two repairs where found with a ESR meter...> Temp at 50*F then at 90*F the ESR reading more than 10%

                    1 Over Head Crane Current Sensing Board ( VFD Failure Five Years Later )
                    2 Hem Saw Computer Stack Board

                    All of these had CAPs POOF
                    All of the mosfet that are taken out by bad caps

                    Comment


                      #90
                      Re: Has anyone had issues with Rayovac Alkaline batteries leaking

                      It is not that high, it is just the open circuit voltage.
                      I.e. with an actual load it comes down a bit, check the datasheets.
                      Last edited by Per Hansson; 11-09-2021, 11:22 AM.
                      "The one who says it cannot be done should never interrupt the one who is doing it."

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                        #91
                        Re: Has anyone had issues with Rayovac Alkaline batteries leaking

                        The cell voltage is based on the chemicals used in the battery. Lithium has a high potential, you'll usually see 3.7-4V and here Energizer did get it down using iron-disulfide.

                        I mentioned the 1.8V just to check the device can take it, it's the worst case and only for a short time. I think it would be worse for two battery devices seeing 3.6V as many IC's are rated ~3.6V max. before the higher classes.
                        Fluke does not mind it, the voltage regulators drop it down.
                        The 9V L522 is ~8.4V nominal and 9V peak.

                        Energizer ultimate lithium are guaranteed to not leak at all: Energizer battery leakage policy
                        But again, you have to ship the device to them which is gross.
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                          #92
                          Re: Has anyone had issues with Rayovac Alkaline batteries leaking

                          Originally posted by sam_sam_sam View Post
                          Update
                          I got a response back from the BBB parts of this response was edited by me the name was changed and the on the one that has ( picture ) had a website link which was removed
                          ***********
                          Mr.Sam reached out to the consumer support team regarding an incident involving Rayovac High Energy AA Batteries that leaked in four different devices. Mr.Sam provided us with images of the Fluke FC 300, Kitchen Faucet and Cable Box Remote. Mr.Sam also alleged damage to a soap dispenser but that one was discarded. Based on the images that we initially received on the Fluke FC300 Mr.Samhad mixed different expiration dates which can result in leakage ( picture ) The initial images of the kitchen faucet battery compartment are extremely blurry, and the consumer support team was unable to review, so they requested additional images, but Mr.Sam explains that he no longer has the batteries and has discarded them. After the consumer support team denies the case due to not having clear images of the expiration date Mr.Sam comes back and shares an image of the 3 devices showing the batteries and expiration dates, but the last image received does not match with the initial image received for the Fluke FC300 since it has a different set of batteries. Additionally, the cable box remote has a set of batteries with different expiration dates which can result in leakage. As an accommodation only, we will only be able to proceed with compensation for the kitchen faucet ($***.00USD).

                          ************************

                          The offer that the company made is better than nothing now I also add that I disagree with there take on the use of batteries that have different expiration dates on them for the public record and I might accept that if you put batteries with very different voltages and some of have very low voltage and other have the normal voltage for new batteries I might expect this explanation for possibly causing the batteries to leak but you noticed how I wrote this
                          Update

                          I did receive the payment that I was promised which like I said it is better than nothing at all
                          This is covers some of the aggravation that I had to put up with this nonsense from this company and there leaking batteries

                          I have decided to use the EBL li-ion 1.5 volt usb type of charging this type of battery I will give them a try and post the results in the future

                          I am also going to try the other version of the EBL batteries that require a special battery charger to use them but they have been out of stock for a while but I seen them are available again so I will be ordering some soon
                          Last edited by sam_sam_sam; 11-28-2021, 02:46 AM.
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                          15 Computer Power Supply
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                          These two repairs where found with a ESR meter...> Temp at 50*F then at 90*F the ESR reading more than 10%

                          1 Over Head Crane Current Sensing Board ( VFD Failure Five Years Later )
                          2 Hem Saw Computer Stack Board

                          All of these had CAPs POOF
                          All of the mosfet that are taken out by bad caps

                          Comment


                            #93
                            Re: Has anyone had issues with Rayovac Alkaline batteries leaking

                            I know that this is a post but still having issues still with leaking batteries I want a lipo4 battery with a voltage of 3.2 volts in a very small package size is there anything out there or do I have to use a buck converter to get the voltage that I need

                            I am sick of these batteries that are leaking for no good reason
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                            6 18v Lithium Battery Power Boards for Tool Battery Packs
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                            25 Servo Drives 220/460 3 Phase
                            6 De-soldering Station Switching Power Supply 1 Power Supply
                            1 Dell Mother Board
                            15 Computer Power Supply
                            1 HP Printer Supply & Control Board * lighting finished it *


                            These two repairs where found with a ESR meter...> Temp at 50*F then at 90*F the ESR reading more than 10%

                            1 Over Head Crane Current Sensing Board ( VFD Failure Five Years Later )
                            2 Hem Saw Computer Stack Board

                            All of these had CAPs POOF
                            All of the mosfet that are taken out by bad caps

                            Comment


                              #94
                              Re: Has anyone had issues with Rayovac Alkaline batteries leaking

                              check aliexpress - are you after a cylinder or a flatpack?

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                                #95
                                Re: Has anyone had issues with Rayovac Alkaline batteries leaking

                                Originally posted by stj View Post
                                check aliexpress - are you after a cylinder or a flatpack?
                                Either one ( but preferably cylinder type would be better ) I am looking for good quality brand battery life

                                This is the most important thing that I am looking for
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                                1 Dell Mother Board
                                15 Computer Power Supply
                                1 HP Printer Supply & Control Board * lighting finished it *


                                These two repairs where found with a ESR meter...> Temp at 50*F then at 90*F the ESR reading more than 10%

                                1 Over Head Crane Current Sensing Board ( VFD Failure Five Years Later )
                                2 Hem Saw Computer Stack Board

                                All of these had CAPs POOF
                                All of the mosfet that are taken out by bad caps

                                Comment


                                  #96
                                  Re: Has anyone had issues with Rayovac Alkaline batteries leaking

                                  https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005003519783206.html
                                  https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005002959027031.html

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                                    #97
                                    Re: Has anyone had issues with Rayovac Alkaline batteries leaking

                                    It gives me a message that neither one can be found
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                                    6 18v Lithium Battery Power Boards for Tool Battery Packs
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                                    25 Servo Drives 220/460 3 Phase
                                    6 De-soldering Station Switching Power Supply 1 Power Supply
                                    1 Dell Mother Board
                                    15 Computer Power Supply
                                    1 HP Printer Supply & Control Board * lighting finished it *


                                    These two repairs where found with a ESR meter...> Temp at 50*F then at 90*F the ESR reading more than 10%

                                    1 Over Head Crane Current Sensing Board ( VFD Failure Five Years Later )
                                    2 Hem Saw Computer Stack Board

                                    All of these had CAPs POOF
                                    All of the mosfet that are taken out by bad caps

                                    Comment


                                      #98
                                      Re: Has anyone had issues with Rayovac Alkaline batteries leaking

                                      the links work for me.

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                                        #99
                                        Re: Has anyone had issues with Rayovac Alkaline batteries leaking

                                        Originally posted by stj View Post
                                        the links work for me.
                                        Here is what I got when I try to open the links that you provided
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                                        9 PC LCD Monitor
                                        6 LCD Flat Screen TV
                                        30 Desk Top Switching Power Supply
                                        10 Battery Charger Switching Power Supply for Power Tool
                                        6 18v Lithium Battery Power Boards for Tool Battery Packs
                                        1 XBox 360 Switching Power Supply and M Board
                                        25 Servo Drives 220/460 3 Phase
                                        6 De-soldering Station Switching Power Supply 1 Power Supply
                                        1 Dell Mother Board
                                        15 Computer Power Supply
                                        1 HP Printer Supply & Control Board * lighting finished it *


                                        These two repairs where found with a ESR meter...> Temp at 50*F then at 90*F the ESR reading more than 10%

                                        1 Over Head Crane Current Sensing Board ( VFD Failure Five Years Later )
                                        2 Hem Saw Computer Stack Board

                                        All of these had CAPs POOF
                                        All of the mosfet that are taken out by bad caps

                                        Comment


                                          Re: Has anyone had issues with Rayovac Alkaline batteries leaking

                                          aliexpress.us???
                                          thats not the links.
                                          use a pc or a better browser

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