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    HP Omen 17 AN113NS it does not work

    in the IC Charger BQ738H, in pin Nº16 I get 0V, without battery or with it, is this possible or what could be wrong?
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    #2
    Re: HP Omen 17 AN113NS it does not work

    Hi. Yes, it is possible.

    1) Post or link the schematic / boardview file for this logic board if available on this forum.

    2) Are you using the recommended power adapter and is suitable for this logic board ?

    3) Start with the DC in power connector -> confirm the voltage of the adapter is reaching this entry to the logic board. What is the voltage ?

    4) Next to the connector should be the usual 2 x DCin mosfets. Carefully measure and post the voltage on each pin of the mosfets (Source; Gate; Drain).

    5) We can study other partial schematics to understand how your logic board may have been designed for the BQ24738 charger IC. Most are clones from the TI datasheets.

    Pin # 6 of the charger = REGN LDO and should be ~6 volts.

    If it is not, confirm that the adapter voltage is available to this IC. It is very possible that this charger IC is defective.

    Available from Aliexpress or a donor board. However, the 2 x DCin mosfets need to be reviewed as well before you go shopping for replacement parts.

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      #3
      Re: HP Omen 17 AN113NS it does not work

      First of all, thank you for the interest shown.
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      Last edited by SMDFlea; 08-01-2022, 01:18 PM.

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        #4
        Re: HP Omen 17 AN113NS it does not work

        The voltages on the DCin mosfets look to be ok, including the gate being about 6 volts higher than the source and ~25 volts to enable the N-channel mosfets.

        However, the REGN LDO rail is not valid. It should not be this low and should be ~6 volts (always). Can you measure this rail again ?

        Remove all power -> meter on the lowest resistance scale.

        One meter lead on pin # 16 (REGN); other meter lead to ground.

        What is the resistance value to ground value ?

        Still with no power, confirm the operation of the same 2 x DCin mosfets by checking their resistance values. If you see '1' or 'OL' on the meter -> switch to a higher resistance scale.

        Measure the resistance of each of the 2 x dcin mosfets as follows:

        Source (1-2-3) & drain (5-6-7-8)
        Source (1-2-3) & gate (4)
        Gate (4) & drain (5-6-7-8)

        Post each measurement and the meter scale used.

        Repeat for the next mosfet.

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          #5
          Re: HP Omen 17 AN113NS it does not work

          Source (1-2-3) & drain (5-6-7-8) 3450 M Ohmios in all
          Source (1-2-3) & gate (4) 3123 M Ohmios in all
          Gate (4) & drain (5-6-7-8) 4544 M Ohmios in all
          Pin 16 charger : 183 K Ohmios , 0 V
          Pin 6 : 2,679 V

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            #6
            Re: HP Omen 17 AN113NS it does not work

            The mosfet resistance values look good.

            Can you review and post the measurements now for the next mosfet ? Often, that is the one that dies.

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              #7
              Re: HP Omen 17 AN113NS it does not work

              the same values in both mosfet

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                #8
                Re: HP Omen 17 AN113NS it does not work

                I'll tell you what I've reviewed so far.
                When I connect the power supply, current arrives at 5v and 3v, but the 3v after about 2 seconds stays at 0v.
                The consumption indicated by the source is about 30mah and after about two seconds there is no more consumption.
                bios 3V arrive and disappear after 2 seconds.
                In the KBC no current arrives at pin vcc nº11.
                3v arrives at the power button and when I connect it stays at 0V.

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                  #9
                  Re: HP Omen 17 AN113NS it does not work

                  Originally posted by mon2 View Post
                  The mosfet resistance values look good.

                  Can you review and post the measurements now for the next mosfet ? Often, that is the one that dies.
                  Please,Help me.

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                    #10
                    Re: HP Omen 17 AN113NS it does not work

                    Check the voltage @


                    pin # 4 (ACDRV)
                    pin # 5 (ACPRES)
                    pin # 6 (ACDET)
                    pin # 16 (REGN)
                    pin # 20 (Vcc)

                    on the same charger IC (BQ738H) with the power adapter connected.
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                      #11
                      Re: HP Omen 17 AN113NS it does not work

                      4-25,55
                      5-2,98
                      6-2,65
                      16-5,99
                      20-19,07

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                        #12
                        Re: HP Omen 17 AN113NS it does not work

                        These are good voltage readings.

                        Measure the voltages on each of the DCIN mosfets and post their values.

                        source (1-2-3) & drain (5-6-7-8)
                        source & gate(4)
                        gate & drain


                        Gate on each of the mosfets should be ~ACDRV value that is created by the charger IC.

                        Interested to know if the mosfets are passing the adapter voltage onto the logic board.

                        After the board shuts off, do you continue to see the same voltages on the charger IC from your last post ?

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                          #13
                          Re: HP Omen 17 AN113NS it does not work

                          19,67
                          25,53
                          6,05
                          In both
                          the same voltage on ic charger

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                            #14
                            Re: HP Omen 17 AN113NS it does not work

                            In your posts, do apply labels to the voltages for the review.

                            Post the voltages on the 2nd mosfet. Gate voltage is great for both DCIN mosfets to enable each.

                            19v67 = DCIN adapter voltage.

                            Output of this mosfet is 6v05 ??

                            What is the voltage seen by the logic board with the adapter (only) - remove the battery for now.

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                              #15
                              Re: HP Omen 17 AN113NS it does not work

                              Originally posted by mon2 View Post
                              In your posts, do apply labels to the voltages for the review.

                              Post the voltages on the 2nd mosfet. Gate voltage is great for both DCIN mosfets to enable each.

                              19v67 = DCIN adapter voltage.

                              Output of this mosfet is 6v05 ??

                              What is the voltage seen by the logic board with the adapter (only) - remove the battery for now.
                              I'm sorry I didn't answer before but the time difference is important. I also tell you that my knowledge in electronics is very small but I have the necessary tools to replace any component as a hobby. This laptop is mine and I would like to be able to revive it.My English is very basic but SAN google helps me. Having said this, I will tell you my measurements:
                              All of them are made without any connected hardware (battery, hard drive, etc...). Just the motherboard.
                              The two input mosfets measure with the power supply at 19.60V:
                              source (1-2-3) & drain (5-6-7-8) : 19,67v
                              source & gate(4) : 25,53v
                              gate & drain : 6,05v
                              The last two measurements I understand is to measure the voltage between source-gate and drain-gate.
                              In the first measurements of voltages in the mosfets, I imagine that I had the source at 18.80v by mistake.

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                                #16
                                Re: HP Omen 17 AN113NS it does not work

                                By the way, when I connect the charger or source, at no time does the connection led light up. Curiously, it lights up if I feed 14.80v with the source. In case this gives you some idea of the problem

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                                  #17
                                  Re: HP Omen 17 AN113NS it does not work

                                  The 3 and 5 volt coils always work when I plug in the power supply. In about a second the 3.4 volt one stops working.

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                                    #18
                                    Re: HP Omen 17 AN113NS it does not work

                                    Originally posted by mon2 View Post
                                    In your posts, do apply labels to the voltages for the review.

                                    Post the voltages on the 2nd mosfet. Gate voltage is great for both DCIN mosfets to enable each.

                                    19v67 = DCIN adapter voltage.

                                    Output of this mosfet is 6v05 ??

                                    What is the voltage seen by the logic board with the adapter (only) - remove the battery for now.
                                    Help,:llorando:

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                                      #19
                                      Re: HP Omen 17 AN113NS it does not work

                                      Originally posted by mon2 View Post
                                      In your posts, do apply labels to the voltages for the review.

                                      Post the voltages on the 2nd mosfet. Gate voltage is great for both DCIN mosfets to enable each.

                                      19v67 = DCIN adapter voltage.

                                      Output of this mosfet is 6v05 ??

                                      What is the voltage seen by the logic board with the adapter (only) - remove the battery for now.
                                      Please :girar:

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                                        #20
                                        Re: HP Omen 17 AN113NS it does not work

                                        source (1-2-3) & drain (5-6-7-8) : 19,67v
                                        source & gate(4) : 25,53v
                                        gate & drain : 6,05v
                                        Can you confirm how these measurements were taken ?

                                        Meter in DC volts scale (20v or higher is ok).

                                        Red meter probe to source pins (1-2-3) ; pick one
                                        Black meter probe to ground (shield ground is ok)

                                        Then review the voltage on this pin.

                                        Repeat for the DRAIN pins (5-6-7-8).
                                        Repeat for the GATE pin (4).

                                        For each case, black meter probe to ground.

                                        Then the same check for the next mosfet.

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