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![]() Hi,
I isolated a power supply failure in my Cambridge Audio Azur 550A to a shorted filter cap (C42, page 37 - see service manual attached) on the +45V supply of the right-hand channel PCB. The faulty cap is a Cambridge Audio branded "Audio Grade" 2200uF, 63V, 105°C 18mmx35.5mm (see attached photo), for which CA have refused datasheet information and the supply of a replacement(s) as they advise they do not supply these items to "end users". Since audio grade caps rarely appear available at more than 50V (105°C) it has me wondering whether or not a couple of decent quality non-audio grade Nichicon or Rubycon caps will suffice in the C41 and C42 positions (my intention is to replace both +45V side filter caps to reduce any untoward imbalances between original and non-original caps). Given that audio grade 2200uF, 63V, 105°C capacitors appear to be a rare item, I am looking for suggestions for potential replacements (brand and series) that I can use in place of the original CA caps. I would think that low ESR, high ripple would the guiding parameters, but the latter can be quite a range. In other words, what is considered too low, high enough or even excessively high ripple current for a cap for this particular purpose? So far I have been looking at the caps below, with the last two (Rubycon and Vishay) having quite substantially higher ripple current figures than the other three. Are these suitable/compatible? I am also wondering if leakage is a particularly important parameter to pay attention to for this usage: Nichicon UVZ1J222MHD Nichicon UVY1J222MHD Panasonic ECA1JHG222 Vishay MAL214258222E3 Rubycon 63ZLJ2200M18X35.5 Thanks in advance for any advice and suggestions. Tony Last edited by 3Phase615V; 11-25-2020 at 08:20 PM.. |
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![]() scumbags.
you dont use "audio grade" caps on power rails. look for low impedence caps with the highest ripple current you can find - preferably with a decent lifespan not some 1000hour shit |
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![]() I would say the custom capacitors are for marketing wank and wooing reviewers, and for having a poor lifetime... strange it shorted.
Sonically, low ESR and high capacitance are audibly better. I think Cambridge Audio saved money by keeping them relatively small value. Note the capacitors experience audio-frequency ripple currents (as well as mains) - so look at the 10kHz ESR spec as well for a figure of merit. So I think an SMPS-grade capacitor is more what these are. If it was my amplifier I would upsize the caps as 2x2,200uF per rail per channel is a bit lean, not the greatest. If you have the height see what might work. pic from Azur 651a edit: the problem is the small height. Nichicon UFW1J222MHD "Audio grade" 2,200µF 63V 2,000Hrs @85°C but more of a placebo. Taller, like 37.5 to 41mm MUCH BETTER: Nichicon UHW1J222MHD 20mohm 3.86A @ 100kHz ripple. But 18x40mm high. United Chemi-Con EKYB630ELL222MM40S 10,000 Hrs @ 105°C, very low ESR 16mohm 3.67A @ 100kHz ripple. Nice. But 18x40mm. I would stuff them in lol. Last edited by redwire; 11-26-2020 at 12:10 AM.. |
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![]() Hi stj and redwire,
Thanks for your replies and advice. It looks like didn't miss out much with the most sensitive parameters for my particular cap requirements. I was thinking I might be better focussing on longer life caps than the ones I found first off and you have confirmed that is worth doing- thanks. I want to try to stick with the original cap sizes (18x33.5), so I will continue looking for similar caps to the ones you have suggested, but the parameter figures are useful to me in that search, so thank you again. By the way, I meant to type I had the Azur 650A not the Azur 550A (hence requiring the larger voltage caps). The cause of the fault, I suspect, was a power surge or outage that caused the ring main fuse to trip while the amp was on standby. I cannot be sure though as I did not immediately use the amp in the days after the trip event. Thanks! Tony |
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![]() just put long life ones in and call it an upgrade .
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![]() how wide and tall can you actually fit?
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