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Old 03-03-2021, 04:11 PM   #21
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Default Re: An old dinosaur bench top power supply - help needed

Correct. This just means the in-out differential can be higher for the K versions but amps can't be that much higher - need beefier pass transistors to do this whether it be internal or external.
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Old 03-03-2021, 11:15 PM   #22
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The power supply is from a company that is no longer in business. It was founded in 1983 so the unit is no older than 38 years. Like in the title - an old dinosaur. As the picture shows the design is simple and primitive. I must have bought in 20 years ago at a garage sale - never worked. Based on the posts it appears it is of a poor design heat sink wise.

After looking up the price of a replacement 7805 and seeing how rickety the wires and pc board is I opted to go with the $9.00 eBay solution.

I will update when the package comes from China and I get the unit working.

Thanks all for the input - I appreciate the comments and learned a good deal.
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Old 03-04-2021, 08:12 AM   #23
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https://www.cricklewoodelectronics.com/78P05.html

i actually have 3a and 5a 7805's in one of my old parts drawers.
dont ask how big the heatsinks were on them back in the mid 80's!!

Thanks for posting this information I did not know there was this version of this type of regulator

I have an application that I could use this type of regulator do you know if there is a 13.8 fix regulator in a 10 amp format

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Old 03-04-2021, 11:07 AM   #24
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Default Re: An old dinosaur bench top power supply - help needed

I still wonder who made that "78P05", and whether or not it's a fake ...

Find datasheet? Never heard of "New Era Electronics" ...

Don't think there's a 13.8V version, you'd probably can add a drop on the GND terminal on one of these if it really can handle 10A.

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Old 03-04-2021, 11:48 AM   #25
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Default Re: An old dinosaur bench top power supply - help needed

when i worked in the arcade industry 7805's running 5a in a TO3 can where everywhere.
heatsink like a shoebox!!!

by around 86 switching psu's became cheap enough to replace them!
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Old 03-04-2021, 03:14 PM   #26
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Default Re: An old dinosaur bench top power supply - help needed

The original was LM309K 5V 1A competing with Fairchild uA7805K 5V 1A back in the day of 8080 home computers with TO-3. In the late 1970's the TO-220 package was good enough at those power levels and everything quickly went that way, much less hassle to assemble things. The LM323K was 5V 3A TO-3.

OP could just keep the original PCB and wire up a LM317T. The sad thing is the new chinese kit will have crappier quality parts.

It's a good basic linear PSU for experimenting and bench use. If the LM317 has the two protection diodes in the circuit, they last years. I would add a grounded power cord, ground the enclosure.
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Old 03-04-2021, 04:59 PM   #27
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I'm only thinking it was homemade because it seems poorly balanced, and I suspect the "indicator lamp" over the power switch looks like a hack job.

Rectifiers are 1N4003 series 1A rectifiers... okay.
2.5mF bulk capacitor... a bit oversized for 1A (funny looking, probably two series 25V 5mF capacitors heatshrinked into one?).
little tiny heatsink... will go nuclear if outputting [email protected]

Lots of improvements possible...

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I have this homemade PSU that I picked up from the trash, it has a 26.8V 1A transformer, a bridge rectifier, an undersized but reasonable 500F bulk filter capacitor, a LM317T, a meter, a DPDT switch to switch the meter between current and amperes mode, and misc "glue" components. This thing looks hideous and the LM317T is mounted on the only metal there is - the front panel. A chipset heatsink is attached via some pressure sensitive double sided tape, must be some huge thermal resistance between the LM317T and that heatsink...

whether I should mod or redo this PSU I don't know, but people probably could say the same to my "real" homemade PSU... (CC/CV dual meter, 1.2V-14V, 0-2.5A, using LM317T and pass transistor, and yes I've fried that pass transistor multiple times also due to insufficient heat sinking...really insufficient...)

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Old 03-31-2021, 09:59 PM   #28
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Default Re: An old dinosaur bench top power supply - help needed

Well the parts arrived from China and are now installed into the modified unit.

Attached are the photos - First is from the Top View displaying the incredible complexity of the modification. It was rather straight forward and I followed the advice given on how to keep the analog needle meter. I did pull the LED off the board and ran a jumper wire to the front panel.

The second photo shows the front view. It was just a matter of using a drill, Dremmel tool and file to make the modifications to the panel.

I agree the unit was some sort of kit/home brew as the PCB board has professional markings. Regardless I have an operational unit now and the cost was under $15.00 with shipping, including a spare module.

Thanks to all.
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