The Hall of Shame - Badcaps Photo Montage - Page 2

**bushytails** · 10-03-2005, 03:34 PM

Mentioned bad caps on irc to someone, and he got this photo...

http://www.rifraf.info/images/hp_caps.jpg

More "TMS" caps, this time out of a HP system. he can't find any other brand on them either.

Willawake, want to add TMS to the photo montage?

--Randy

**willawake** · 10-03-2005, 03:51 PM

aw that is just gross. they have expensive rubycon MBZ there as well.

do we have permission to use the pic? it is a great pic. what happened to the 2 removed fets? toast?

**AK0R** · 10-04-2005, 09:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by willawake

what happened to the 2 removed fets? toast?

They probably died when the capacitors gave up the ghost. Either he took them off because they're DEAD, or they got so hot, they melted themselves off the board.

**Rainbow** · 10-04-2005, 12:08 PM

It looks like they were never there - just a manufacturing option.

**willawake** · 10-04-2005, 12:59 PM

dont tell mikey he has an even better animated chick on his site http://www.rifraf.info/

**Newbie2** · 10-04-2005, 04:21 PM

I have the same motherboard that you guys have reported to have bad TMS caps!

It is just not used currently and is in an anti-static bag right now. My looking on that motherboard I have, there are United Chemi-Con and Sam-Young caps where the TMS caps would go. In the back strangely there are three good G-Luxon general purpose caps on the motherboard I have in a bag. In the front of the board there are three Rubycon MBZ caps and the two good brands of caps I can see on my board in a bag is the Rubycon and United Chemi-Con caps. The Sam-Young caps on the the bad cap list but they haven't failed yet.

**bushytails** · 10-04-2005, 08:42 PM

I don't think it had FETs there; not only do the pads look like nothing was soldered there, but he said the board still works great, he just put in the spare pile when he noticed the caps. (knowing it might not work great for much longer. heh.)

I'll ask him about photo permission next time I see him.

--Randy

**kc8adu** · 10-05-2005, 01:22 AM

tms=too much shit?
btw the "missing" parts are for an optional phase not used on this model.

**UraBahn** · 12-08-2005, 10:48 AM

BTW, you can use my photo of the YEC in the Photo Montage if you like.
UraBahn

**Newbie2** · 12-09-2005, 06:39 PM

TMS caps are very bad. Instead of the usual yellow/orange stuff we see come out of other caps we see TMS caps leak out chunks of dark brown stuff. Yuck.

**larrymoencurly** · 01-16-2006, 02:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bushytails

Anyone have a capacitance meter? Some brands (i.e. Teapo) tend to fail with no physical signs... best way to document them would be a photo of the capacitor's rating next to a photo of the meter reading far lower than it should...

--Randy

Every bad cap I've had, except for shorted ones, tested fine for capacitance, including the Fuhjyyus from my Antec and the 1uF I replaced a few days ago for my TV (lower half of picture really stretched out). OTOH their ESRs were all high, again except for the shorted ones.

**PeteS in CA** · 01-16-2006, 09:04 AM

Many of my "torture" victims can be double or triple the rated Z, but the capacitance is still in-spec (though much reduced from the initial C - +/-20% is a really loose standard).

bobcaygeon · 01-16-2006, 12:43 PM

Heres a failed Fulltec (bulged), Jee (bulged), and a CS (bulged with junk coming out the top) capacitor from a group that I pulled from an older rebadged Leadman LP-8800D that I was recapping "for fun". Ironically, the only cap that was still good (or at least looked good) in the O/P section was a 1000uF Fujiyyu, so you know if the Fujiyyu surived these must be bad.

**dood** · 02-03-2006, 08:44 PM

Here are some GL caps from an older Biostar slot A motherboard:

These four were clustered around two MOSFET heatsinks that get very hot. Out of the 12 total caps on the board, these were the only 4 failed. Board was still working fine, but for longevitys sake, I replaced those 4.

**trodas** · 02-08-2006, 01:16 PM

Time for my submission. Two bad Chemi-con KZG 1500uF 16V caps from DFI LP B mobo (tought the rest looking quite OK, so maybe the one is just faulty and drag down the other one with it?) - pics can moderator took from my thread about it there: http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...?t=1345&page=2 (likely the 4th one or so - your pick - or the second one?

)

Now my Epox 8RDA+ caps - one example cap, two pictures:

Cap type 2200uF 10V GCS (re) 105°CT31A

Friend old dead (burned mosfets because caps lost their capacity) ECS K7S5A mobo:

Cap type 2200uF 6.3V G-LUXON LZ 105°C 1117 (M)

Enjoy!

**Newbie2** · 02-08-2006, 03:30 PM

In the first three pictures, why are the failed caps in PCI slots?

The ECS K7S5A motherboard has been known here to catastrophically fail when the caps go bad in the MOSFET area, killing the MOSFETs.

**trodas** · 02-08-2006, 06:35 PM

Well, because I obviously desoldered them from the mobo

You want me to solder them back in order to take a photo?

**PeteS in CA** · 02-08-2006, 11:04 PM

While UCC KZG series caps are not suitable for trodas's system, they are not bad caps in the common usage of Badcaps Forums, as I understand it anyway.

**trodas** · 02-09-2006, 04:10 AM

I do believe that one of the cap (the burned-looking one) was faulty and dragged down the other too by excessive overheaing and losing capacity - therefore stressing the other one over the limits to the breaking point...

At least that is what I think happend.

Still, they did go and ain't quietly, after all

**willawake** · 02-09-2006, 04:19 AM

Quote:

While UCC KZG series caps are not suitable for trodas's system, they are not bad caps in the common usage of Badcaps Forums, as I understand it anyway.

until we see more reports of fails they are considered ok. Guys, please continue the discussion on trodas' thread.

10-03-2005, 03:34 PM	#21
bushytails Moderator Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 217	Re: The Hall of Shame - Badcaps Photo Montage Mentioned bad caps on irc to someone, and he got this photo... http://www.rifraf.info/images/hp_caps.jpg More "TMS" caps, this time out of a HP system. he can't find any other brand on them either. Willawake, want to add TMS to the photo montage? --Randy

10-03-2005, 03:51 PM	#22
willawake Super Modulator Join Date: Nov 2003 City & State: Αθήνα Posts: 8,006	Re: The Hall of Shame - Badcaps Photo Montage aw that is just gross. they have expensive rubycon MBZ there as well. do we have permission to use the pic? it is a great pic. what happened to the 2 removed fets? toast? __________________ capacitor lab yachtmati techmati

10-04-2005, 12:08 PM	#24
Rainbow Badcaps Veteran Join Date: Aug 2005 City & State: Slovakia Posts: 1,117	Re: The Hall of Shame - Badcaps Photo Montage It looks like they were never there - just a manufacturing option.

10-04-2005, 12:59 PM	#25
willawake Super Modulator Join Date: Nov 2003 City & State: Αθήνα Posts: 8,006	Re: The Hall of Shame - Badcaps Photo Montage dont tell mikey he has an even better animated chick on his site http://www.rifraf.info/

10-04-2005, 04:21 PM	#26
Newbie2 Badcaps Veteran Join Date: Sep 2005 City & State: Halifax, NS My Country: Canada Line Voltage: 120VAC 60Hz I'm a: Complete Noob! Posts: 862	Re: The Hall of Shame - Badcaps Photo Montage I have the same motherboard that you guys have reported to have bad TMS caps! It is just not used currently and is in an anti-static bag right now. My looking on that motherboard I have, there are United Chemi-Con and Sam-Young caps where the TMS caps would go. In the back strangely there are three good G-Luxon general purpose caps on the motherboard I have in a bag. In the front of the board there are three Rubycon MBZ caps and the two good brands of caps I can see on my board in a bag is the Rubycon and United Chemi-Con caps. The Sam-Young caps on the the bad cap list but they haven't failed yet. __________________ My gaming PC: AMD Phenom II X6 1100T Black Edition 3.3GHz Six-Core CPU (Socket AM3) ASUS M4A77TD AMD 770 AM3 Motherboard PowerColor AMD Radeon RX 480 8GB GDDR5 PCI-Express x16 3.0 Graphics Card G.SKILL Value Series 16GB DDR3-1333 RAM (4x4GB dual channel) TOSHIBA DT01ACA200 2TB 3.5" SATA HDD (x2) WD Caviar Green WD20EARX 2TB 3.5" SATA HDD ASUS Xonar DG 5.1 Channel PCI sound card Antec HCG-750M 750W ATX12V v2.32 80 PLUS BRONZE Power Supply Antec Three Hundred Mid-Tower Case Microsoft Windows 10 Pro 64-bit Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 64-bit Last edited by Newbie2; 10-04-2005 at 04:24 PM..

10-04-2005, 08:42 PM	#27
bushytails Moderator Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 217	Re: The Hall of Shame - Badcaps Photo Montage I don't think it had FETs there; not only do the pads look like nothing was soldered there, but he said the board still works great, he just put in the spare pile when he noticed the caps. (knowing it might not work great for much longer. heh.) I'll ask him about photo permission next time I see him. --Randy

10-05-2005, 01:22 AM	#28
kc8adu Super Moderator Join Date: Nov 2003 City & State: dayton ohio My Country: U.S.A! Line Voltage: 12vdc,120/240vac,480vac 3ph on my bench I'm a: Professional Tech Posts: 8,297	Re: The Hall of Shame - Badcaps Photo Montage tms=too much shit? btw the "missing" parts are for an optional phase not used on this model.

12-08-2005, 10:48 AM	#29
UraBahn Scrapheap Hound Join Date: Nov 2004 City & State: Woodland, CA My Country: USA Line Voltage: 120VAC 60Hz I'm a: Hobbyist Tech Posts: 153	Re: The Hall of Shame - Badcaps Photo Montage BTW, you can use my photo of the YEC in the Photo Montage if you like. UraBahn __________________ The ever-amazing (and ever-affordable) KY, Chemi-con's best kept secret. I'll probably be the only person going to SteamOS once it gets out of beta (ha ha.)

12-09-2005, 06:39 PM	#30
Newbie2 Badcaps Veteran Join Date: Sep 2005 City & State: Halifax, NS My Country: Canada Line Voltage: 120VAC 60Hz I'm a: Complete Noob! Posts: 862	Re: The Hall of Shame - Badcaps Photo Montage TMS caps are very bad. Instead of the usual yellow/orange stuff we see come out of other caps we see TMS caps leak out chunks of dark brown stuff. Yuck.

01-16-2006, 09:04 AM	#32
PeteS in CA Badcaps Veteran Join Date: Aug 2005 City & State: San Jose, CA My Country: USA, Unsure of Planet Line Voltage: 120VAC, 60Hz & 115VAC, 400Hz I'm a: Professional Tech Posts: 3,488	Re: The Hall of Shame - Badcaps Photo Montage Many of my "torture" victims can be double or triple the rated Z, but the capacitance is still in-spec (though much reduced from the initial C - +/-20% is a really loose standard). __________________ PeteS in CA Power Supplies should be boring: No loud noises, no bright flashes, and no bad smells. ************************** To kill personal responsibility, initiative or success, punish it by taxing it. To encourage irresponsibility, improvidence, dependence and failure, reward it by subsidizing it. ************************** Anti-Covid-Vaxxer pig crap claim/prediction, Doctor: Heart Failure from mRNA Jabs "Will Kill Most People" \| Principia Scientific Intl. ; Dr. Geert Vanden Bossche Warns COVID-19 Jab Injuries and Deaths Will Soon "Collapse Our Health System" (VIDEO) ; Fully Vaxxed May 2021; Since that time I've done 10 5Ks, 1 8K, 8 10Ks, and 4 half marathons

02-03-2006, 08:44 PM	#34
dood Deputy dood Join Date: Mar 2004 City & State: Berwick, PA My Country: USA Line Voltage: 120VAC 60HZ I'm a: Hardcore Geek Posts: 2,443	Re: The Hall of Shame - Badcaps Photo Montage Here are some GL caps from an older Biostar slot A motherboard: These four were clustered around two MOSFET heatsinks that get very hot. Out of the 12 total caps on the board, these were the only 4 failed. Board was still working fine, but for longevitys sake, I replaced those 4.

02-08-2006, 03:30 PM	#36
Newbie2 Badcaps Veteran Join Date: Sep 2005 City & State: Halifax, NS My Country: Canada Line Voltage: 120VAC 60Hz I'm a: Complete Noob! Posts: 862	Re: The Hall of Shame - Badcaps Photo Montage In the first three pictures, why are the failed caps in PCI slots? The ECS K7S5A motherboard has been known here to catastrophically fail when the caps go bad in the MOSFET area, killing the MOSFETs.

02-08-2006, 06:35 PM	#37
trodas Badcaps Veteran Join Date: Jan 2006 City & State: Prerov My Country: Czech republic Line Voltage: 230V AC 50Hz I'm a: Knowledge Seeker Posts: 746	Re: The Hall of Shame - Badcaps Photo Montage Well, because I obviously desoldered them from the mobo You want me to solder them back in order to take a photo?

02-08-2006, 11:04 PM	#38
PeteS in CA Badcaps Veteran Join Date: Aug 2005 City & State: San Jose, CA My Country: USA, Unsure of Planet Line Voltage: 120VAC, 60Hz & 115VAC, 400Hz I'm a: Professional Tech Posts: 3,488	Re: The Hall of Shame - Badcaps Photo Montage While UCC KZG series caps are not suitable for trodas's system, they are not bad caps in the common usage of Badcaps Forums, as I understand it anyway.

02-09-2006, 04:10 AM	#39
trodas Badcaps Veteran Join Date: Jan 2006 City & State: Prerov My Country: Czech republic Line Voltage: 230V AC 50Hz I'm a: Knowledge Seeker Posts: 746	Re: The Hall of Shame - Badcaps Photo Montage I do believe that one of the cap (the burned-looking one) was faulty and dragged down the other too by excessive overheaing and losing capacity - therefore stressing the other one over the limits to the breaking point... At least that is what I think happend. Still, they did go and ain't quietly, after all