Help identifying this Cap - 630V, 0.047u

[Assurance]

Hi all,
I need help identifying this Cap

Im trying to replace this capacitor <<<630V, 0.047u , rectangular shape >>>>

will this be an ideal replacement
KEMET RC Capacitor 47nF 47Ω Tolerance ±20% 250 V ac, 630 V dc 1-way Through Hole PMR209 Series

RS Stock No. 209-213
Mfr. Part No. PMR209MB5470M047R30
Brand KEMET


from rs.uk.online,com - https://uk.rs-online.com/web/p/rc-ne...itors/0209213/

[stj]

Re: Help identifying this Cap - 630V, 0.047u

the part at RS is NOT a cap, it's a filter with a built-in resistor.

you need something like this:
https://uk.rs-online.com/web/p/polye...itors/1719150/

[Assurance]

Re: Help identifying this Cap - 630V, 0.047u

Thanks for your reply

its part of a controller circuit and shown in attachment

and this https://uk.rs-online.com/web/p/polye...itors/1719150/ - <<< KEMET 47nF Polyester Capacitor PET 220 V ac, 630 V dc ±10%, Through Hole>>>

is rated for only 220VAC

will this work for me.... ?

sorry for ASKing

[stj]

Re: Help identifying this Cap - 630V, 0.047u

is it connected between the L & N mains input?
because if it is then it needs to be an X2 rated device

[Assurance]

Re: Help identifying this Cap - 630V, 0.047u

Im sorry , im not sure answer to your question

but find here attached the casing for the circuit with output of 30VDC/240VAC, 2A (COS@=1)

[stj]

Re: Help identifying this Cap - 630V, 0.047u

that looks like it's on the DC side so it's getting about 345v - no problem as it's rated for 650v
to be sure, can you post a photo of the other side of the board.
and what is the distance between the 2 pins?

[budm]

Re: Help identifying this Cap - 630V, 0.047u

Lets see good clear straight shots for the whole top and bottom side of the board so we can figure out the function of that cap.
Is it tested bad?
What is the board not doing?
Same board as in this thread: https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showth...029#post967029

[stj]

Re: Help identifying this Cap - 630V, 0.047u

judging by his other thread, i suspect he's just shotgunning it

[budm]

Re: Help identifying this Cap - 630V, 0.047u

judging by his other thread, i suspect he's just shotgunning it

It looks like it.

[Assurance]

Re: Help identifying this Cap - 630V, 0.047u

I found this online, hope it helps -

and this for a later version -<<<FXON-40ER-ES/UL datasheet.>>>


FOUND MORE info online -
http://www.inverter-plc.com/plc/FX0_...4MR-ES-UL.html

https://cdn.badcaps-static.com/pdfs/...cb24b567af.pdf

Many Thanks

[budm]

Re: Help identifying this Cap - 630V, 0.047u

https://www.badcaps.net/forum/attach...4&d=1591746782

That is not the pictures of the bottom side of the board where C5 in question.

The board in question has two rectangular cutout on two corners: https://www.badcaps.net/forum/attach...9&d=1591744711

And again, what is wrong with the board?

[Assurance]

Re: Help identifying this Cap - 630V, 0.047u

@ BUDM, Well spottted, sorry I got my wires crossed,

Find attached correct pictures Top and Bottom for FX0-Power JY331C7 8501B

Yes, some caps are bad i.e.
C5 - 630v, 0.047u,
C100- 400v, 68u
also this RES:
Resistor R18
Resistor R5
Thermistor (TH) 10D9 - not sure if this is NTC/PTC

Many Thanks

[stj]

Re: Help identifying this Cap - 630V, 0.047u

it looks like the cap is on the dc side.

[Assurance]

Re: Help identifying this Cap - 630V, 0.047u

@stj, @budm, Thanks for your help sooo far

since it is on the DC side
I finally found a replacement for Cap C5 - 630v, 0.047u from RS, I hope Im correct and hopefully the circuit can come alive again

1) Panasonic 47nF Polyester Capacitor PET 630V dc ±5%, Through Hole

RS Stock No. 622-4937
Mfr. Part No. ECQE6473JF
Brand Panasonic

<<<https://uk.rs-online.com/web/p/products/6224937/>>>


-OR-


2) NISSEI 47nF Polyester Capacitor PET 630V dc ±10%, Through Hole

RS Stock No. 183-3242
Mfr. Part No. MMX0630K47300000000
Brand NISSEI

<<<https://uk.rs-online.com/web/p/products/1833242/>>>


I need advice on which one to choose

±10% or ±5% ?

[budm]

Re: Help identifying this Cap - 630V, 0.047u

1) Cap C5 - 630v, 0.047u. So what is wrong with the cap? Shorted? Not showing correct capacitance? It looks to be connected in parallel with the main filter cap C100 (68uF 400VDC).
2) R5 (0.47 Ohms) is blown so something may be shorted out causing the resistor to blow, it looks to be resistor for the Source pin of the 3-pin power device. You need to test that 3-pin power device (MOSFET?) mounted on the heatsink for shorts.
3) R18 is also blown so you need to check that circuit section also.
4) Why is the fuse removed? Was the fuse blown?
5) Bridge rectifier D9 tested good?

https://www.badcaps.net/forum/attach...6&d=1591801314
At this points it looks like you have more than just blown NTC and blown resistors.

[Assurance]

Re: Help identifying this Cap - 630V, 0.047u

1) Cap C5 - 630v, 0.047u. So what is wrong with the cap? <<Has a bulge in it>>
2) R5 is blown so something may be shorted out causing the resistor to blow.<<the machine failed to work, Not sure why this box is blown>>
3) Why is the fuse removed? <<<fuse removed while taking pictures>>>
4) You still do not tell us what is the board not doing.<<<This is part of a power supply controller unit for a plactic welding /sealing operation, (it supplies instant heat for this operation)>>>
5) Why do you say that NTC 10D-9 is bad? <<<only changing because its cracked open as shown in attachment, im guessing it still works >>>
https://www.badcaps.net/forum/attach...6&d=1591801314

[budm]

Re: Help identifying this Cap - 630V, 0.047u

Please see my update post 15.
But does the cap C5 still show the correct capacitance? Does it show leakage resistance?

[stj]

Re: Help identifying this Cap - 630V, 0.047u

@stj, @budm, Thanks for your help sooo far

since it is on the DC side
I finally found a replacement for Cap C5 - 630v, 0.047u from RS, I hope Im correct and hopefully the circuit can come alive again

1) Panasonic 47nF Polyester Capacitor PET 630V dc ±5%, Through Hole

RS Stock No. 622-4937
Mfr. Part No. ECQE6473JF
Brand Panasonic

<<<https://uk.rs-online.com/web/p/products/6224937/>>>


-OR-


2) NISSEI 47nF Polyester Capacitor PET 630V dc ±10%, Through Hole

RS Stock No. 183-3242
Mfr. Part No. MMX0630K47300000000
Brand NISSEI

<<<https://uk.rs-online.com/web/p/products/1833242/>>>


I need advice on which one to choose

±10% or ±5% ?

why not the one i linked in post2?

[budm]

Re: Help identifying this Cap - 630V, 0.047u

At this point OP has more than just blown PTC and caps issue, more likely the MOSFET had shorted out and also blown resistors.

[SMDFlea]

Re: Help identifying this Cap - 630V, 0.047u

hmm https://forum.allaboutcircuits.com/t...online.170441/