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    #21
    Re: EPROM [BIOS] Programmers - What's good?

    Fan spinning mobo collectors of the world unite and EPROM !!

    If it was as simple as connecting the cable and running a floppy......????


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      #22
      Re: EPROM [BIOS] Programmers - What's good?

      Originally posted by jay007 View Post
      Has anybody had any experience with this board/software/support???

      http://www.sivava.com/EPROM_Programmer_5.html

      I'm in the same boat as PCBONEZ, i have laptop and desktop boards with spinning fans that need resurrecting and re-flashing seems like the way to go.
      If you search "All Forums" on this site you will find a review of the SIVAVA programmer in a similar thread I started. The SIVAVA is the parallel port (printer port) interface, apparently slower than USB interface, and you need the appropraite cable and the PC used to do the programming must have a parallel port

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        #23
        Re: EPROM [BIOS] Programmers - What's good?

        "Slower" ??
        That means it takes like 3 minutes instead of 2??
        If that's the case I think I'll live.
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          #24
          Re: EPROM [BIOS] Programmers - What's good?

          Actually it depends
          In some cases the older parallel interfaces can take about 20 minutes to program an eeprom
          If you have one to make maybe not a problem, but if you have got a few to do...

          This depends on the type of eeprom used and type of programmer used...
          "The one who says it cannot be done should never interrupt the one who is doing it."

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            #25
            Re: EPROM [BIOS] Programmers - What's good?

            http://www.sivava.com/products.html


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              #26
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              on the rare occasions I ever dink with a BIOS, its still good 'ol CBROM and modbin.
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                #27
                Re: EPROM [BIOS] Programmers - What's good?

                Would I be correct in saying that a lot of the "spinning CPU fan no post" syndrome would be down to a borked bios chip?


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                  #28
                  Re: EPROM [BIOS] Programmers - What's good?

                  if you have a POST code test card and it only says "FF" or "FFFF" on bootup, it's either the BIOS, or the board is FUBAR'd in some other way..

                  as BIOS reflashing/hotflashing just takes a couple minutes it's usually worth a try.

                  if you're lucky like me, you can get a board on ebay for cheap and it turns out that all that's wrong with it is that the dumbass previous owner just flashed the wrong BIOS

                  happened to me that way with a Gigabyte G33M-DS2R .. all that it did was beep at me and get stuck on a certain POST code on my POST code card. nothing on the screen yet.
                  turned out the prev. owner had flashed the BIOS of a G33M-DS3R onto the 8pin SPI BIOS chip..
                  oh well..12euro for the board and 10 mins worth of time and it's back alive

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                    #29
                    Re: EPROM [BIOS] Programmers - What's good?

                    Originally posted by kiddznet View Post
                    Would I be correct in saying that a lot of the "spinning CPU fan no post" syndrome would be down to a borked bios chip?
                    That or a bad PSU blew the chipset so the BIOS can't 'talk through' it.
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                      #30
                      Re: EPROM [BIOS] Programmers - What's good?

                      i still use my old xeltek superpro.have also used a random board that supports the eprom in question to do a hotflash.

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                        #31
                        Re: EPROM [BIOS] Programmers - What's good?

                        How about spinning CPU fan, both h/sink on CPU and northbridge getting warm, beeps for no RAM but still no boot ?


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                          #32
                          Re: EPROM [BIOS] Programmers - What's good?

                          if nothing is visibly damaged and it doesn't have a nvidia chipset, BIOS is the best bet (assuming the caps are OK)

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                            #33
                            Re: EPROM [BIOS] Programmers - What's good?

                            Originally posted by jay007 View Post
                            Has anybody had any experience with this board/software/support???

                            http://www.sivava.com/EPROM_Programmer_5.html

                            I'm in the same boat as PCBONEZ, i have laptop and desktop boards with spinning fans that need resurrecting and re-flashing seems like the way to go.
                            I bought one of those, and I like it very much.

                            Cheap and seems very capable for a lot of things (Although someone on this forum said they don't work for some 27C devices that are supposed to be supported) - I don't know for sure as I haven't tried any (yet)

                            Sivava seems to have (on their website at least) not the latest version of the programming software. The latest programmers might have a newer version on CD though.

                            I did find some newer versions on various electronics forums though.

                            If you really want to save money, the v3 schematics are around on the internet, you could build one yourself (although it doesn't support as many devices as the v5 apparently)


                            My only problem (so far) would be that I wish the PLCC sockets were ZIF - but I don't know if those actually exist.
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                              #34
                              Re: EPROM [BIOS] Programmers - What's good?

                              Oh dear more drama on removing 8 pin SOP
                              Desoldering I was a little bumfisted and pulled 2 solder pads off

                              They are pad six and seven. Can see the trace to six but none for seven
                              Have I had some luck and seven is unused?[

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                                #35
                                Re: EPROM [BIOS] Programmers - What's good?

                                I guess if they didn't use Pin 7 then you don't need it

                                What does the datasheet say the "Hold#" pin is for?
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                                  #36
                                  Re: EPROM [BIOS] Programmers - What's good?

                                  Can anyone help out with a trace/circuit diagram around a SPI bios chip on a GA-M61SMES2?


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                                    #37
                                    Re: EPROM [BIOS] Programmers - What's good?

                                    use my own spi bios flasher/programmer
                                    build from scratch
                                    based on http://rayer.ic.cz/elektro/spipgm.htm
                                    here's the stuff ..
                                    https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showpo...50&postcount=5
                                    Last edited by holmes222; 09-14-2011, 10:14 AM.

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                                      #38
                                      Re: EPROM [BIOS] Programmers - What's good?

                                      My Willem EPROM programmer has an SPI pin header on it for doing this sort of thing I believe. But your design there looks nice if you didn't have a programmer already
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                                        #39
                                        Re: EPROM [BIOS] Programmers - What's good?

                                        the SPI header is indeed very useful ..
                                        almost new mobo have this type of bios chip
                                        even if the chip is not soldered on board (dip8 pin)
                                        my maximus has soldered bios chip but with spi header present on it ..
                                        you can modify the cable to accomodate no soldered bios ..
                                        here's the pin guide reference
                                        Attached Files

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                                          #40
                                          Re: EPROM [BIOS] Programmers - What's good?

                                          Yeah my MSI 790GX-G65 has a SPI header on the board also, and an 8-Pin SOIC SMD EEPROM. I've seen some other boards use a socketed DIP-8 with no SPI header, which is easier. In fact I reprogrammed one for a guy when he did a badflash.
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