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![]() Ok, just a little addendum to the Gateway P4 build.....
About ~15yrs ago (yea, really), I was given an Abit IC7 Max3 that didn't work that had a CPU & RAM in it. The board was still under warranty from Abit, so I RMA'd it and they sent me a brand spankin new one in the box. I sold it on ebay, as new/unused. I don't remember whatever happened to the CPU or RAM....but one thing that was left over that I forgot about as well made a reappearance in the world last month when I was trashing some stuff in the attic.... It's in the form of a massive Zalman SKT478 cooler. I always called it 'the copper flower'....thats what it always reminded me of. It's very heavy; I always wondered how that little plastic bracket could hold it.... I was going to use it in THIS BUILD, but it would not clear the VRM or the RAM....however, I got to thinking of what other P4 system I had around here I could use this on....and well...yea! It fit this one like a glove!! This is just a nifty old build for a 'big box' system! ![]()
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![]() I tinkered around with the Gateway FX6831-03 I was given; posted in the Cheap/Free Scores thread... I wanted to see what it could do and see if it was going to be a solid runner.
I did a quick test when I first got it, seemed fine....but I noticed most everything was unplugged from the power supply inside it. I'm guessing the original went bad and someone installed this one; perhaps just to get it running well enough to recover data...not real sure....the wires were a rat's nest and all the hardware except the power supply is original....and I don't see Gateway shipping it looking like that....but I'll get back to this in a few....bear in mind, this isn't the finish build....it was just some experimenting....so ignore the rat's nest of wires.... The only functional issue I noticed was the GPU fan was making all kinds of racket, so that had to be addressed..... Disassembled....a bazillion screws later! Thermal paste wasn't terrible....but it wasn't good either... Now for the fan....caked bad with dust, so my guess was it was horribly out of balance....likely a contributing factor for a lot of the racket it was making. I hate the way these fans come apart.....internal pressure snap/clasp....and prying on them always makes me nervous!! ![]() Cleaned off the GPU die and sink. Fan washed, repacked with grease, some fresh AS5, and everything reassembled. Funny, according to M$, this GPU I just wasted an hour on is the slowest thing in the system (Radeon HD5850)....it is now quiet as a mouse though... ![]() Now back to all the stuff unplugged from power; both opticals were unplugged, the HDD was missing (so obviously unplugged) and there was a strange looking board up in the ceiling of the case that I didn't recognize, with a bunch of other wires coming out of it going to various places in the case....hmmmm...I have a hunch what it might be, but lets plug it in and see.... Sure enough, just as I suspected....lighting! Some mild red LED lighting.... Pretty tastefully done I must say, not overdone. I still lol at 'SuperComputer' being on the case badge from Gateway....but I bet that lighting increases the FPS by atleast 2.77 FPS in any game just because of the cool points!! ![]() |
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![]() My dad has one of these systems. The board at the top of the case also connects up the USB ports on the case and the headphone jacks.
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![]() Oh ok. I may be (mis)-remembering. It's been a while since I last had the case open, and it got mothballed several months ago when I moved the guts to my old main workstation system's case to cure a heat-related issue that caused the system to eat hard drives (after it ate a 3TB Seagate and 2x 2TB WD Black drives). It's also an early-2010 system.
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![]() Just a goofy one....I wasn't going to waste any bandwidth posting this one, there's a lot of weird little builds that I simply don't post about....but someone expressed that the board in this one be sent to e-waste heaven!! I did it before the suggestion.....but here it is....A HP Pavilion 515x with a complete craptastic board in it.... No AGP but has a blank, celeron D @ forgotWTFspeedit was....and who cares about the rest.....but the system was complete.....so hmmmm...
I have an Asus P5KPL-AM SE that I have no clue where it came from, I'm sure it was a dropoff in a scrap case, but I kept the board. It has a Pentium-D @ 3GHz w/ 4mb L2, 2gb RAM, and a GeForce 7300GT 256mb GPU. Now that will go nice in this case! I know, not the greatest GPU, but for this, it's perfect! The old turd.... The little shorty PSU. This one was a Delta, and good. I did recap it....just didn't take any pics. Installed. 160gb SATA Velociraptor. Much cleaner look! Begging for XP! ...even a little Q3A!! ![]() Yea, I know....lame build.....but I couldn't scrap one this complete on account of a junktastic useless system core. |
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![]() Ok, one more addendum to this build..... The fella that gave it to me came by today and said the speakers turned up!
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![]() Something else that I'd figure that I'd mention:
Back around 2002, my mom bought a fully loaded Gateway computer (Pentium 4 HT, AGP ATi GPU of some sorts, 80GB or 160GB WD Caviar Black IDE HDD ($$$!), and I think ~1GB of RAM.) Talk about a pretty penny. Anyways, it ran for 10 faithful years until a presumed power supply failure ate the motherboard, and it never ran again. I don't remember what PSU it had, but given that it went down with a power failure and never came up again, it could have possibly been one of those infamous Bestec ATX-250-12E PSUs with the 2-transistor 5VSB that relied on a capacitor for voltage regulation. (Not to be confused with the ATX-250-12Z which fixed this problem.) |
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https://www.badcaps.net/forum/attach...1&d=1645674848 I really think the case sets it off; alienware clone that so many manufactures were doing at the time. With the exception of the GPU, the system isn't too terribly valuable....but a nice addition to the collection all the same! |
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The case on my mom's Gateway wasn't anything like that one. It was an older design. I can't remember if it had a sound card added (it's been ~10 years since that system got recycled). Cost? IIRC, it was somewhere around $2500 or so. EDIT: Found what it was. Looks like a Gateway 510XL or 510SE. Last edited by TechGeek; 04-09-2022 at 08:11 AM.. |
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the copper version is 918 grams which is nearly 1 kg. thats also slightly over 2 pounds for those still using imperial units. definitely a hefty cooler indeed! |
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![]() Today's weird one comes in the form of some old HP Pentium-D system with a board full of bad caps..... Not really worth the effort to recap....but the case is immaculate.....good for a mild sleeper. There were several different config's tested with this one, but I'm not going to dwell on that, just post the final config and outcome.
I don't even remember what model this was.... The bad board: Enter in the new board a Pegatron IMPTB-TK "Truckee" out of some HP workstation, I don't know where it came from....I've had it for years. The power supply removed from the case.... Yikes! Not reusing this thing...flimsy body and weighs less than a couple slices of bread. Looks to be a deer or L & C, but never heard of the 'OKIA' brand. Case emptied out. The Pegatron board installed. 128gb Sandisk SSD. Replacement PSU is an Antec 650w, recapped of course. Now here's where it gets fun! The board has two 16x PCIe slots....so I did some homework....but all claims state it absolutely does not support SLI or crossfire.....ohh lets just see about that!! The SLI test was indeed a failure....however, the crossfire test was a success! I won an auction (high bid of $11) for an identical HD5850 to go along with THIS ONE that I swiped from my FX6831-03. Don't worry, I have a replacement for the FX6831, but that's for later on....but now I have a matching pair of HD5850's for the test!! Every rear slot filled with GPU action! Incase you were wondering what CPU is in this, it's a Xeon W3580 @ 3.33GHz. CPU-Z says it's a Bloomfield, but the S-Spec says Nehalem.....but it's running @ the correct speeds and all instruction sets are present. Yes, the board has the latest BIOS on it. This board will not run a Westmere. ![]() The results: It's not a bad system at all and was fun doing the tinkering with..... No official crossfire support, but it will do it. I've seen this on many board with multiple 16x slots... I guess AMD figured if you could afford the two cards and a board with 2 slots, you didn't need any hardware licenses embedded in the motherboard to run like this; like nvidia and SLI.... The single HD5850 scored a '6.0', and '7.7' in crossfire according to the insignificant windows assessment.... |
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![]() Forgive me computer gods, for I have sinned....but keep in mind, this was done to mock someone that bragged about spending $100 on RGB fans & lighting!
![]() The 'specimen': Antec DF-30 tower in mint condition Asus KFN5-D workstation board 2x Barcelona core Opteron 2360SE @ 2.5GHz (max it can take) 64gb PC2-5300E 2x Quadro 4000 2gb in SLI 2x 160 Velociraptors in a RAID0 Momaka is going to disown BCN over this one!! ![]() Now time to start attaching things.... Yea, there's enough clearance under the PSU!! ![]() Test fired using the bench supply. All this pulls about ~900mA Tying it all together & hiding wiring. Sides reinstalled. Live test! This is hard to photograph. In person, the light is a lot more crisp....but you get the idea... With the case closed, at no angle looking in the window can you actually see any of the LED's; which is critical for making this look half way decent....for as ricey & ghetto as it already looks!! Yes, this project aggravated the 'intended target' (not a member here). I spent $10 shipped for the two 10' reels of LED tape, and I used very little....maybe 3 feet combined, so at $0.50 per foot it cost ~$1.50 compared to his ridiculous $100....but here's where the sin mentioned in the opening paragraph came into play...I actually enjoyed this!!! ![]() |
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![]() Well this was critiqued today by none other than my 24yr old daughter who said it looked awesome, but the blue was a bit overbearing. Add a little more red if you can....so I pondered....and pondered....and didn't come up with much until I inadvertently realized there was a plastic air guide on top of the CPU heatsinks that basically allowed a 70mm fan to be used on a sink intended for 60mm.... THis raised the fan off the sink a good 30mm; leaving plenty of room between the fan & sink.....and BAM!! The light bulb...err, LED lit up!
![]() I had to be a little careful with these plastic risers....with age, they're a little brittle....but I didn't break them.....but here we go! One segment of LED. Attached to the fan, note the orientation....I arranged them both so they'll be horizontal when mounted in their holders....even though each fan is clocked differently due to the location of their power connectors. Tested; not bad. Plenty of room for exit routing the wire in the fan's power wire channel. Now for the other side, and you can see the difference in the LED orientation from the other one. Bench supply test, no problem! Now to wire them into power....and the reason I used such long wires... I routed these down to the lower right corner where the unused 4-pin +12v connector was tied out of the way (the board uses the larger 8-pin). I then stole the 4-pin connector off a junk motehrboard. Soldered & heatshrunk. Now that Gentlemen is how we do that!! ...and now the real test...and again bear in mind that these pics look like shit.....I guess I don't know the secret to correctly photograph something like this with no flash.... That solved the overwhelmingly blue issue! ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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![]() Just go out a buy any of the Sigma DP range of compact DSLR's, they have some amazing tech to resolve complex light situations. Just don't blame me when you find out it is useless for anything else bar that though ![]()
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