Supermicro PDSBE with you guessed it...

**Topcat** · 04-07-2012, 07:21 PM

...bad caps! I was really shocked by this one, its the first Supermicro board that's crossed my bench with bad caps since the 370DL3/DLE P3 days....but low & behold, it was UCC that spoiled it (1000uF 10v KZG).....should have known.... Anyway, its on the record now. Sad sad Day (incase any of you were wondering, I'm a staunch Supermicro fan)!!

**brethin** · 04-07-2012, 07:33 PM

Nothing is bullet proof if not cared for properly (my guess is bad case cooling and those KZG's where they are located would have lasted alot longer.).

**Topcat** · 04-07-2012, 07:43 PM

^
I actually asked about that (thought the same thing you did). When the client told me the model and how recent it was, I was having a hard time believing it..... It was in a supermicro workstation case....well vented and maintained.... With the exception of the NRSY mess with SM in the P3 days, every other SM board I've encountered was phased out because it was becoming an antique before it ever broke down. The KZG's just shit the bed like they do for everyone else....

**ratdude747** · 04-07-2012, 07:47 PM

well, i'd rather it be fixable like caps and not something worse...

**kc8adu** · 04-08-2012, 09:59 AM

is it just the pic or are the ones between the pci slots below the realtek chip bulging too?
no surprise on the kzg.
you would think after the nrsy fiasco they would be more careful.

**Topcat** · 04-08-2012, 10:10 AM

^
Its the pic, there were no others failed. All the rest of the lytics were Sanyo WG series, and there were 3x 1800uF 16v MBZ's. It was just the UCC KZG's that wrecked their day.

**Uranium-235** · 04-08-2012, 01:21 PM

yeah why the hell would they put all sanyos and just two kgzs?

supermicro still does use kgz's on some of thier budget server boards to this day

**c_hegge** · 04-09-2012, 12:30 AM

The only Supermicro boards avaiable in Australia are the expensive server ones, so I've never seen a supermicro board for real.

**RJARRRPCGP** · 04-19-2013, 07:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Uranium-235

yeah why the hell would they put all sanyos and just two kgzs?

supermicro still does use kgz's on some of thier budget server boards to this day

Some of the budget Supermicro boards seem to be no better than typical consumer boards.
Especially a more recent one that only supports a paltry 2 GB of RAM!
Come on Supermicro!

**severach** · 04-21-2013, 05:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Uranium-235

yeah why the hell would they put all sanyos and just two kgzs?

Because KZG look good on paper. The news from the Internet hasn't trickled up to the engineers yet. Besides, what do those Internet fools know anyways...

**mockingbird** · 04-21-2013, 06:55 PM

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With the exception of the NRSY mess with SM in the P3 days

Can you elaborate? Are you saying that NC NRSY series are no good?

**c_hegge** · 04-22-2013, 01:23 AM

^
No, there used to be a knock off of them -branded- NRSY.

**ratdude747** · 04-30-2013, 10:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by severach

Because KZG look good on paper. The news from the Internet hasn't trickled up to the engineers yet. Besides, what do those Internet fools know anyways...

Don't worry, once I graduate college and get a job as an engineer, I won't stoop to that level. However, I can attest that most engieneers are clueless about bad caps, gutless wonders, and anything "pratical" of this nature.

Like thinking a gutless "450W diablotek would do 450W just because "it [or the datasheet} says so". At least for a diablotek it wasn't too bad... still junk IMHO

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04-07-2012, 07:33 PM	#2
brethin Badcaps Veteran Join Date: Dec 2008 City & State: Owensboro, KY. My Country: USA Line Voltage: 120VAC 60Hz I'm a: Professional Tech Posts: 1,734	Re: Supermicro PDSBE with you guessed it... Nothing is bullet proof if not cared for properly (my guess is bad case cooling and those KZG's where they are located would have lasted alot longer.).

04-07-2012, 07:43 PM	#3
Topcat The Boss Stooge Join Date: Oct 2003 City & State: Salem, MO My Country: United States Line Voltage: 240V @ 60Hz I'm a: Professional Tech Posts: 12,952	Re: Supermicro PDSBE with you guessed it... ^ I actually asked about that (thought the same thing you did). When the client told me the model and how recent it was, I was having a hard time believing it..... It was in a supermicro workstation case....well vented and maintained.... With the exception of the NRSY mess with SM in the P3 days, every other SM board I've encountered was phased out because it was becoming an antique before it ever broke down. The KZG's just shit the bed like they do for everyone else....

04-07-2012, 07:47 PM	#4
ratdude747 Black Sheep Join Date: Nov 2008 City & State: Madison, IN My Country: USA Line Voltage: 120VAC 60Hz I'm a: Professional Tech Posts: 16,117	Re: Supermicro PDSBE with you guessed it... well, i'd rather it be fixable like caps and not something worse... __________________ (Insert witty quote here)

04-08-2012, 09:59 AM	#5
kc8adu Super Moderator Join Date: Nov 2003 City & State: dayton ohio My Country: U.S.A! Line Voltage: 12vdc,120/240vac,480vac 3ph on my bench I'm a: Professional Tech Posts: 8,296	Re: Supermicro PDSBE with you guessed it... is it just the pic or are the ones between the pci slots below the realtek chip bulging too? no surprise on the kzg. you would think after the nrsy fiasco they would be more careful.

04-08-2012, 10:10 AM	#6
Topcat The Boss Stooge Join Date: Oct 2003 City & State: Salem, MO My Country: United States Line Voltage: 240V @ 60Hz I'm a: Professional Tech Posts: 12,952	Re: Supermicro PDSBE with you guessed it... ^ Its the pic, there were no others failed. All the rest of the lytics were Sanyo WG series, and there were 3x 1800uF 16v MBZ's. It was just the UCC KZG's that wrecked their day.

04-08-2012, 01:21 PM	#7
Uranium-235 Muffins Join Date: Aug 2007 City & State: tehas My Country: US Line Voltage: 120VAC 60Hz I'm a: Professional Tech Posts: 3,296	Re: Supermicro PDSBE with you guessed it... yeah why the hell would they put all sanyos and just two kgzs? supermicro still does use kgz's on some of thier budget server boards to this day

04-09-2012, 12:30 AM	#8
c_hegge Badcaps Veteran Join Date: Sep 2009 City & State: North Coast, NSW My Country: Australia Line Voltage: 240V 50Hz I'm a: Professional Tech Posts: 5,052	Re: Supermicro PDSBE with you guessed it... The only Supermicro boards avaiable in Australia are the expensive server ones, so I've never seen a supermicro board for real. __________________ I love putting bad caps and flat batteries in fire and watching them explode!! No wonder it doesn't work! You installed the jumper wires backwards Main PC: Core i7 3770K 3.5GHz, Gigabyte GA-Z77M-D3H-MVP, 8GB Kingston HyperX DDR3 1600, 240GB Intel 335 Series SSD, 750GB WD HDD, Sony Optiarc DVD RW, Palit nVidia GTX660 Ti, CoolerMaster N200 Case, Delta DPS-600MB 600W PSU, Hauppauge TV Tuner, Windows 7 Home Premium Office PC: HP ProLiant ML150 G3, 2x Xeon E5335 2GHz, 4GB DDR2 RAM, 120GB Intel 530 SSD, 2x 250GB HDD, 2x 450GB 15K SAS HDD in RAID 1, 1x 2TB HDD, nVidia 8400GS, Delta DPS-650BB 650W PSU, Windows 7 Pro

04-22-2013, 01:23 AM	#12
c_hegge Badcaps Veteran Join Date: Sep 2009 City & State: North Coast, NSW My Country: Australia Line Voltage: 240V 50Hz I'm a: Professional Tech Posts: 5,052	Re: Supermicro PDSBE with you guessed it... ^ No, there used to be a knock off of them -branded- NRSY.

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