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Old 01-12-2014, 11:00 AM   #1
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Default Panasonic FJ/FL genuine or not?

I bought these caps on e**y from HK and I would like to know if they are genuine. Thanks

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Old 01-12-2014, 06:13 PM   #2
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Default Re: Panasonic FJ/FL genuine or not?

I think they look genuine to me.
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Old 01-13-2014, 08:16 AM   #3
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Thank you, I needed a confirmation.
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Old 01-14-2014, 10:58 AM   #4
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Default Re: Panasonic FJ/FL genuine or not?

I would say they look genuine to me as well. I just compared them to a few 16V 1500 uF Panny FL caps that I pulled from an Xbox 360.

Can we see a picture of the voltage/capacitance rating and another of the bungs too? Just to really make sure they are legit.

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Old 01-14-2014, 10:23 PM   #5
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+1 genuine
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Old 01-15-2014, 06:28 AM   #6
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Default Re: Panasonic FJ/FL genuine or not?

They look like the right bungs.

However, is that a picture you took? If not, we need to see the pics of the caps you got. Some sellers will fool you by putting pics of good caps on the listing, then give you fake ones.
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Old 01-15-2014, 06:44 AM   #7
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I would say they look genuine to me as well. I just compared them to a few 16V 1500 uF Panny FL caps that I pulled from an Xbox 360.

Can we see a picture of the voltage/capacitance rating and another of the bungs too? Just to really make sure they are legit.
Of course. This is the voltage/capacitance picture. The pictures are mine.

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Old 01-15-2014, 07:14 AM   #8
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look real to me
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Old 01-17-2014, 09:21 PM   #9
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Default Re: Panasonic FJ/FL genuine or not?

Yup. I've seen plenty of identical-looking Panny FJs on motherboards.
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Old 01-18-2014, 07:45 AM   #10
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Default Re: Panasonic FJ/FL genuine or not?

I welded these on my 10 years old motherboard, they are certainly better than GSC (Great Sh*t Caps).
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Old 01-18-2014, 10:16 PM   #11
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they are certainly better than GSC (Great Sh*t Caps).
For sure

Mind if I ask what motherboard?

I just recapped a Jetway N2PAP-LITE about 2 weeks ago (also about 10 years old). Was full of GSC and they were all reading high capacitance on the ESR meter (meaning they have actually developed high internal leackage). Yes, every single one of them! And the really small ones were at least several Ohms ESR each.
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Old 01-19-2014, 07:27 AM   #12
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The mb is a Via P4PB-400.
I have changed CPU caps four years ago (replaced with Sanyo WG) and now I recapped the capacitors on 16 Volts line.
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Old 01-28-2014, 11:06 PM   #13
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Of course. This is the voltage/capacitance picture. The pictures are mine.

Which seller did you order from?
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Old 01-30-2014, 04:01 AM   #14
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Default Re: Panasonic FJ/FL genuine or not?

my 1000uF 6.3V looks similar like yours...
dissect one of it... the chemical colour looks correct...
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Default Re: Panasonic FJ/FL genuine or not?

...Since i can't see the original photos, what are the odds that these capacitors (possibly from the same source) are not fake?:
i.e. is there any genuine black/white, (instead of black/gold) FJ's out there
They measure about 950uf and 0.11 ESR
(the apparent missing print on the last photo is only an illusion cased by the lighting)





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Old 12-05-2019, 06:07 AM   #16
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Default Re: Panasonic FJ/FL genuine or not?

given neither have been made in many years - what does it matter?
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so all electrolytic caps, that are "many years" old, should be thrown away?

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Old 12-05-2019, 01:13 PM   #18
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Default Re: Panasonic FJ/FL genuine or not?

I canít see the attachments. If they (the capacitors) are sourced from eBay and/or from Hong Kong, chances are they could be counterfeits. Iíve seen Panasonic FJ, FJS, and FL with black/white sleeves used on Pegatron motherboards manufactured after 2008/2009 or thereabouts. I suspect it was due to the switch from PVC to PET sleeves, as with the long discontinued Rubycon MBZ, MCZ, and MFZ series going from PVC blue/gold and black/gold sleeves to PET black/white sleeves.
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so all electrolytic caps, that are "many years" old, should be thrown away?
no, but you shouldnt buy any,
and old stock may need to be re-formed.

i have had rubycon MCZ explode on me simply because a motherboard had not been powered for several years.
it slowly lost charge and depolarised in the box!
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...Since i can't see the original photos, what are the odds that these capacitors (possibly from the same source) are not fake?:
i.e. is there any genuine black/white, (instead of black/gold) FJ's out there
Not sure, but I would have to dig out my XFX Radeon HD 4670 video card. It has black/white/gray Panny caps on it. Though they might be FR's, I can't remember.

If I don't reply, remind me again in a few days and I'll dig out that box that it's in. (I just don't feel like doing it right now, as it's close to midnight, lol. )

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