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![]() Yeah, I did install a Q6600 G0 in it now.
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Mine is the black version. I don't really like the yellow one (looks like a banana lol) and this one came from a prebuilt that had an socket 939 Gigabyte board with nForce 3 chipset. I removed most of the old stuff (Radeon 9250, Maxtor 80GB IDE HDD, Delux PSU, a LG DVDRW and about 1GB of RAM, all running XP SP3. By the front cover style, I'd actually say Thermaltake. Antec's designs were much simpler than Thermaltake's. Quote:
![]() Anyways, I have another build in my plan. I want it to be a near 1:1 copy of my main i3 machine, but with a few twists. One thing I'm going to tell you - its PSu is going to be one of the best I've worked on - FSP BlueStorm II 500W model FSP500-60GLN. Unlike some units here, mine came with a 420uF 400V (or was it 450?) Capxon primary and it hasn't ever bulged. Couldn't say the same about the secondary and 5vSB, on which I had to replace caps, not to mention some of the spots were near impossible to reach. I used Sanyo WF for the 2200uF 6.3v Crapxons, Panasonic FL 1000uF 16v for the 12v rails (half of what caps were in there were 1000uF 16v) as well as two LTECs extracted from a dud 400W Delta that was a Fujitsu Siemens OEM and had a different ATX coloring, namely a 2200uF 6.3v for the 5vSB, and a big and bulky 3300uF 16v LTEC for the main 12v rail (12v1) which I managed to cram. I also replaced a dead 2.2uF Capxon with a Yang Chun and a 100uF 25v Capxon with a 100uF 25v Nichicon HD in the 5vSB section, just to be safe. Last edited by Dan81; 08-10-2019 at 11:51 PM.. |
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#743 |
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Join Date: Feb 2019
City & State: Overijssel
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![]() While I've owned many systems one has definitively earned its place as my least favorite. Its one and only Dell Latitude E6540.
I bought it second hand back in 2017, it was in a mint condition. Everything works, all the documentation is present and doing some tests revealed that everything's running just fine. It was a system with an i7 4800MQ, Radeon HD 8790M, 8GB ram and 256 GB SSD. As a cherry on top it has a fairly good FHD TN panel with good contrast. I bought it for college for the intentions of using it for what its made for: doing productive things like programming and running simulation software instead of, you know, gaming ![]() ![]() Lets start off with things that have gone wrong with it, shall we? ![]() It powered on from sleep and kept working for an approximately two hours inside of carrying bag. The wrath of the overheating E6540 killed the keyboard... Should I have turned it off instead of let it go to sleep, yes. But from all of the laptops that I've had my hands on, not a single one powered on from sleep without deliberately doing so (ie moving a mouse to power it on). Second, it has killed a replacement battery. I still wonder how. Third. Who at Dell decided that a system that houses an 47 W TDP CPU and, atleast, 50W TDP GPU should be cooled by a tiny radiator with a fan that has no direct air flow over it. Without any modifications the i7 4800MQ throttles like there's no tomorrow, its nuts! ![]() Fourth. 3 of 4 USB port don't like to power anything more power thirsty than a mouse dongle. There's a revision 2.0 motherboard floating around EBay which should fix that issue.. Honestly my biggest mistake is that over the past two years I poured money to fix the thing since I can't admit that I purchased a lemon of a laptop. After all of those shenanigans that I've dealt with its now a dependable laptop that just works. So there's a happy ending for it. |
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I guess Dell figured that most Latitides would have dual-core CPUs and IGP so "why bother designing a cooling solution for the relatively small percentage with quad-core CPUs and discrete graphics". |
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#745 |
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Join Date: May 2008
City & State: VA (NoVA)
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![]() Here is a PC I put together somewhat quickly not too long ago: HP Pavilion p7-1534 motherboard stuffed in a p7-1233w case with the cheapest APU. I call it the “APU experiment”, though calling it the “scrap HP APU build” wouldn’t be entirely wrong (hey, it even features a “Scrapper Lite” IGP – how appropriate!
![]() Specs…. CPU (or APU, if you will ![]() Motherboard: HP JasmineR [MSI MS-7778 v1.0] from HP Pavilion p7-1534 RAM: 8 GB (1x 8GB) Samsung PC3-12800 DDR3, 1.50V Video Card: see APU above ^ … with 512 MB of shared memory @ 800 MHz CPU cooler: OEM Intel socket 775 heatsink with 80 mm 3-pin fan (Sunnon 1.44W) HDD: 80 GB Western Digital WD800JD, SATA (for now.) PSU: 250W Bestec ATX-250-12Z (“mostly” recapped ![]() Optical: DVD-RW (forgot which brand and model), SATA – came with the case Case: HP Pavilion p7-1233W OS: Windows 7 starter x64 (for now.) Some pictures… https://www.badcaps.net/forum/attach...1&d=1566519612 https://www.badcaps.net/forum/attach...1&d=1566519612 https://www.badcaps.net/forum/attach...1&d=1566519612 https://www.badcaps.net/forum/attach...1&d=1566519612 CPU-Z: The motherboard, as shown in CPU-Z (i.e. chipsets and whatnot) And GPU-Z specs of the Radeon HD7480d “Scrapper Lite” IGP: A “little” history... ... of how/why this PC came together. ![]() (You better know when I say “little”, prepare to read a book ![]() So, awhile back, I got many scrap PCs from a local PC repair shop. The case for the PC above was one of the many from that lot. It was empty with nothing inside it. Around the same time, I also won an auction with scrap RAM (mostly DDR2) from an eBay seller. The RAM all turned out to be working and came out at less than $1 per GB, IIRC. Happy with the good deal I got, I found the same seller had several auctions for scrap CPUs. In one of them, there was an AMD A8-6600k and some high-end -looking Intel LGA11xx CPU (turns out it was not, but that’s another story ![]() The A8-6600k APU from the auction looked OK – just had a ton of bent pins, like the rest of the CPUs (mostly Pentium 4’s that were all working.) I straightened the pins out and started looking for an FM2 motherboard (on eBay again, because… where else? ![]() As always, I research things before I buy. The MS-7778 v1.0 motherboard is supposed to be a “JasmineR” model. There is also a blue-colored PCB of this motherboard, the MS-7778 v0.8, or simply “Jasmine”. What’s the difference? (I will withhold making Aladdin jokes here ![]() Thus, everything looked like it was going to work out well – in fact, very well, as that HP motherboard was a perfect fit for the case. The A8 APU would also match the “AMD A8 Vision” logo on the case. It’s like, it was all meant to be ![]() ![]() After a few months, I decided to throw more money into this project (or curiosity pit, really. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() With the A4-5300, that MS-7778 motherboard booted right up with a proud HP logo! ![]() ![]() Whatever the case, that A4 APU did the trick and worked just fine (more on that later in the post.) As for the A8-6600k APU… surprisingly, that thing is dead! ![]() ![]() ![]() So, that’s how the parts above came about for this PC. There’s not much else to it. Of course, as with all my builds, I did do a bit of ghetto-mod work here and there (well, when did I ever -not- do that? ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Another item I couldn’t help to not mod: the cooling: https://www.badcaps.net/forum/attach...5&d=1566518698 https://www.badcaps.net/forum/attach...4&d=1566518698 And link to thread of those pictures can be found here. For those who don’t want to click the link and read there… in short, I adapted a socket 775 heatsink (that had busted mounting screw posts) to fit on this motherboard, which seems to be using a mounting pattern similar (if not the same) to LGA115x. Besides the socket 775 heatsink “hacks”, I also did some “work” on the fan wiring. Namely, I removed the original 80 mm 4-pin PWM fan from the CPU cooler, because the BIOS throttles it down way too much – I could see the blades barely turning over. This made even such low-power APU as the A4-5300 run hot, along with the surrounding motherboard components in the CPU VRM. Obviously, that wasn’t cutting it for my cooling “standards”. ![]() ![]() ![]() https://www.badcaps.net/forum/attach...1&d=1566519612 Last but not least, I added a 40 mm fan to the chipset heatsink. The chipset doesn’t really run that hot. But in a very warm room, such as mine, it can get uncomfortable to touch. So the 40 mm fan takes care of that. Moreover, it doesn’t add any noise, because I have it running at 5V. It barely moves any air at that voltage, but it’s more than enough to keep the chipset cool. So the result with all that cooler modding: cool-running APU that tops at 52°C @ max load with a room temperature of ~28°C (~83°F). ![]() ![]() |
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#746 |
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Join Date: May 2008
City & State: VA (NoVA)
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![]() In terms of performance, the A4-5300 APU is pretty weak, despite having some more modern instruction sets. A Core 2 Duo @ 3 GHz easily beats this 3.6 GHz APU (actually, only 3.4 GHz in the HP mobo, as turbo-boost doesn’t work.) I suspect the bigger L2 cache on the C2D is the reason why. Meanwhile, the Radeon HD7480d IGP is not too bad, especially when paired with faster RAM. But with only 4 ROPs and 8 TMUs, it’s still rather weak for 2013 standards. It will run games from ~2012 and earlier “OK” at lower resolutions (720p or lower). But for anything more, it is not enough. I was brave enough to even try Fortnite on this PC (in case I wanted to give my nephews something to mess on) and… NOooo
![]() That said, overall this is just another PC I put together to mess with. Mostly been using it now in the summer when it’s hot, as it doesn’t generate much heat and will play many older games that I like. For what it’s worth, I even considered this cool-running PC as my next “main rig”. However, the lack of PS/2 connectors are the show stopper here, as I’m not willing to let go of my 20-year-old PS/2 Logitech mouse and keyboard just yet – not from main PC duty, anyways, where I do the majority of work and typing (including long posts like these for badcaps.net.) Yes, there are USB to PS/2 converters, and I even have a few cheap ones. The problem with the cheap ones is that the keyboard still drops out every once in a while and mouse doesn't always get detected on boot. Other than that, I actually like this PC so far. ![]() Last edited by momaka; 08-22-2019 at 06:37 PM.. |
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![]() mmm sounds similar to a ThinkCentre M78 I saved from scrap, it started life as a dual core a6 5400B and I bought a cheap A10 5700, put in 8gb ram and 1tb spinner, seems to run light gaming pretty good but the A10 has the best of the IGP's of that generation AMD. they still run windows 10 and 7 great and are more then enough for any internet or office task.
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Join Date: Oct 2013
City & State: Bacau
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![]() A10 APU cheap? Where???
![]() All I am seeing online is minimum of $30 for those, if not more. For $30 more, I'd get a modern low-end quad core Ryzen chip that stoops the heck out of any of these APUs. ![]() Quote:
But I guess what I find disappointing with these APUs is that they have a high frequency and modern instruction set, making one think they perform much better than any old generation chip. Yet, they don't. The fact that a C2D that is 5 years older than this APU and still beats it is the disappointing part. Last edited by momaka; 08-24-2019 at 09:36 AM.. |
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Join Date: Oct 2013
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![]() Finally settled on a build I'm going to do:
MB: Gigabyte EP45T-DS3R PSU: FSP Bluestorm II 500W GPU: Geforce GTX750Ti 2GB GDDR5 HDD: 2x2TB, 1x500GB, 1x320GB RAM: 1x4GB, 3x2GB - 10GB total ODD: Samsung SH-224DB SATA (silver) OS: Windows 10 Enterprise 1809 & Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 x64 Case: Delux MG760 (silver) |
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![]() ^ I'm guessing that's where the Q9400 will be going?
Would be interesting to see what kind of OC you'll get on stock voltage. I imagine most likely should be able to do +20%, provided you have a good cooler. Oh man, I remember those tacky "BMW" cases. Was the ricer deluxe of the time. ![]() BTW, I also have another system in the brewing... but it's still a work in progress. Not as "unique" as the ones I previously posted, but a lot more powerful CPU-wise. |
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![]() Eh, as tacky as the case may seem, it's pretty sturdy. IIRC it's made from thick galvanized steel.
As for the cooler, I'm.currently using the stock Intel cooler ( the big one, not the smaller cooler made for 45nm CPUs) but will plan on replacing it ASAP aling with the GTX750 (which will be replaced with a R9 270x if I can still find it) |
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Hope you're NOT using the stock Intel push-pin design either. I despise how much those things warp motherboards. Not sure why Intel loves to warp the crap out of everything with their stock heatsinks. Not that AMD doesn't too. Some of the s939, AM2, AM3, FM2, and AM4 heatsinks are almost as aggressive. Last edited by momaka; 09-03-2019 at 05:56 PM.. |
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Join Date: Oct 2013
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My 775 stock coolers are usually the big copper insert ones. The thinner crap usually either gets sent on a low power dual core Celeron or 115X boards. (I can pull a few of the plastic tabs to fit the 115x mounting holes) |
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#757 |
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![]() Dell Latitude E6430
16Gb ram of which it a maximum ram 500Gb hdd Nvdia Graphics i7 cpu old but i love it guys with keyboard backlight and finger print scanner ![]() |
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#758 |
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City & State: Casablanca
My Country: Morocco
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![]() I have 3 syatems but i will put the one i work with a lot.
hp elitebook 8440p 4 gb RAM i7 2.70 Ghz integrated intel hd4000 gpu |
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#759 |
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Join Date: Oct 2013
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![]() Redid some of my rigs and these are the results as of now:
Main Rig: Delux MG760 case (original state, not painted) FSP Bluestorm II 500W PSU 8GB RAM DDR3 (2x2GB + 1x4GB, going to buy 2x 8GB DDR3 kits and make 16GB) Gigabyte EP45T-DS3R Intel Core 2 Quad Q9400 2.66GHz (to be replaced by a X5450 once I find one) Scythe Mine Quiet Rev-B cooler MSI Twinfrozr Geforce GTX750Ti 2GB GDDR5 Winfast PxDVR3200H PCI-E TV Tuner Creative SoundBlaster X-Fi XtremeGamer PCI SB0730 Linksys WMP54G PCI WiFi card AOpen DVD-RW IDE Samsung SH-224AB SATA DVD-RW (silver) Seagate Barracuda ES.2 ST3100340NS 1TB 7200RPM 32MB cache SATAII (got another one of these for really cheap) Windows 10 Enterprise 1809 LTSC 2nd rig: custom made JNC/Deer case from various pieces Raidmax RX-500XT 4GB RAM (2x2GB) DDR2 ASUS P5QD Turbo Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 stock Intel cooler Gainward GT630 1GB GDDR5 MSI DVD-RW IDE Samsung HD322IJ 320GB 7200RPM 16MB cache SATAII Windows 8.1 Pro 3rd rig: Delux MG760 (painted black) Thermaltake TR2-420NP (420W?) PSU 4GB DDR2 (4x1GB) GeIL black ASUS P5K-V (flashed to vanilla P5K) Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 2.40GHz stock Intel cooler Winfast PX8400GS 1GB DDR3 Hitachi-LG GSA-H58N DVD-RW (white faceplate, black tray) Samsung HD502IJ 500GB 7200RPM 16MB cache SATAII Seagate ST3250310AS 250GB 7200RPM 16MB cache SATAII Debian 9, booting from the 250GB drive The "Vintage Iron": no case yet P&O LC-B400ATX "400W" (recapped, complete with line filter and PI coils everywhere) 320MB PC133 SD-RAM Soyo SY-6BA+IV (with Highpoint HPT366 RAID controller) Intel Pentium 3 650MHz Coppermine (the real Slot 1 variant, not on slotket) MSI Geforce 2 Pro 32MB AGP2x ASUS DRW-1814BL DVD-RW 2x Seagate ST310211A 10GB ATA100 HDD Windows 2000 SP4 + Windows "codename Millenium" build 2394 |
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#760 |
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Join Date: May 2008
City & State: VA (NoVA)
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![]() ^ I see you jumped on the Core 2 Quad bandwagon now.
![]() ![]() Due to incompetently-built web pages these days, it's pretty much become a requirement to run a dual core CPU now and at least 2 GB of RAM. On that front, even the E2160 is struggling with some pages quite a bit (e.g. Outlook email takes 10 seconds to load vs. nearly instantly with any C2Q or more modern dual core.) So I'm trying to move to a dual-core PC soon - it's about time, anyways! ![]() Last edited by momaka; 10-09-2019 at 02:47 PM.. |
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