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**RJARRRPCGP** · 07-22-2021, 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Topcat

I wouldn't. Velociraptors weren't known for longevity, I've seen a lot of bad ones; far more than SSD's. The earlier 3.5" raptors were the workhorses, but were slower.

Was the problem the same thing as their 7Ks? Was it often a case of board/PCB oxidation/corrosion?

I was hoping that they were at least more reliable than their Blues! Now, those are known for connector oxidation and corrosion, IIRC!

Looks like I have a lot of oxidation on my 2016-built Western Digital Black 7K 500 GB HDD!

**shovenose** · 07-23-2021, 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Uranium-235

Well, mines not clean at all, but I don't know why you don't use just Nvme SSD's unless there is a specific reason. They're 250gb WD VR's. So if it's raid 5 it's a total of 750GB, raid 0 1tb. You can get a good quality 1TB SSD for $150 or so

Yeah but four of them in RAID0 performs nice. Plus they sound cool when they're busy

I am using an nvme SSD as the boot drive. The Raptors just hold my games and Adobe creative cloud software.

As for reliability honestly I love them. I have five of these drives. Ones in my bfs PC and these four. All have 30-60k hours on them.

**Dan81** · 07-23-2021, 03:05 AM

I still have 2x 74GB Raptors, love 'em and the way they sound.

**Maxpower3** · 07-23-2021, 05:54 AM

I stopped for my machine mechanical hard drive between noise and consumption.

of course to improve performance

Now I use DELL Quad NVME and make storage pools with windows and primocache for accelerated .

I store my programs and games there and windows in a another Nvme

It is more than enough for me and I am quite happy with this config

Hard to come back to HDD after

**eccerr0r** · 07-23-2021, 07:03 AM

"modern" sub 400GB SSDs piss me off... old ones are better!

oh crap...wrong thread.

**diif** · 07-23-2021, 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by eccerr0r

"modern" sub 400GB SSDs piss me off... old ones are better!

oh crap...wrong thread.

Why are old ones better ?

**Maxpower3** · 07-23-2021, 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by diif

Why are old ones better ?

too many cell writing now

**BigTroll** · 07-23-2021, 08:23 AM

Just wait till the PC industry adopts soldered SSDs like the new macs then everyone will be screwed.

**shovenose** · 07-23-2021, 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Maxpower3

I stopped for my machine mechanical hard drive between noise and consumption.

of course to improve performance

Now I use DELL Quad NVME and make storage pools with windows and primocache for accelerated .

I store my programs and games there and windows in a another Nvme

It is more than enough for me and I am quite happy with this config

Hard to come back to HDD after

Haha I absolutely hate mechanical hard drives for boot drives but for my games and apps it's good enough. Even Photoshop opens up plenty fast on the 4x VelociRaptor RAID0. No point wasting space on my NVMe boot SSD that's only 256GB. Lame but I got it for free. I could buy a bigger one but I don't need it so why bother.

**Uranium-235** · 07-23-2021, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by BigTroll

Just wait till the PC industry adopts soldered SSDs like the new macs then everyone will be screwed.

I don't think that will happen. Even my super thin LG Gram has two replaceable 2280 slots

Most PC manufacturers want to separate them from apple

**diif** · 07-23-2021, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by BigTroll

Just wait till the PC industry adopts soldered SSDs like the new macs then everyone will be screwed.

Nope, it's only Apple users getting screwed with soldered SSDs. They are a hardware company that remove the ability for their users to upgrade to gouge even more money and differentiate models.

There might be a few non Apple devices with soldered SSDs but any manufacturer of motherboards or assembler of PCs or laptops would be seriously hampering their sales if they did this, I also seriously doubt it will happen.

**shovenose** · 07-23-2021, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by BigTroll

very tidy build shovenose!

Thank you!

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Originally Posted by Topcat

I like the ice trays the raptors come in more than the raptors themselves. The trays support SAS, so 15k 2.5 inchers fit nice in them, as well as SSD's for 3.5" scenarios.

BTW Shovenose, I've got a box packed up for you...

Yay

I'm very excited!!

Quote:

Originally Posted by RJARRRPCGP

Was the problem the same thing as their 7Ks? Was it often a case of board/PCB oxidation/corrosion?

I was hoping that they were at least more reliable than their Blues! Now, those are known for connector oxidation and corrosion, IIRC!

Looks like I have a lot of oxidation on my 2016-built Western Digital Black 7K 500 GB HDD!

Hmmm... oxidation on the boards? First I'm hearing of this. What on earth causes that. Faulty manufacturing?

**RJARRRPCGP** · 07-23-2021, 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by shovenose

Thank you!

Yay

I'm very excited!!

Hmmm... oxidation on the boards? First I'm hearing of this. What on earth causes that. Faulty manufacturing?

Looks like it.

**shovenose** · 07-24-2021, 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by RJARRRPCGP

Looks like it.

I googled and binged and found very few reports of this WD oxidation...

**Topcat** · 07-24-2021, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by shovenose

I googled and binged and found very few reports of this WD oxidation...

I've fix a bunch of them. It was definitely a bigger issue than being reported. Perhaps many got trashed without being diagnosed. This issue however, did not affect the velociraptor. Every bad velociraptor I dealt with always had mass bad sector issues.

**Dan81** · 07-24-2021, 11:01 AM

I can almost say the same for 2.5" laptop WD Blacks.

Ironically the only good one I have (99% health, currently 1 weak sector) is in a HP G62-a35SO, of all things.

**grss1982** · 07-30-2021, 02:27 AM

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Originally Posted by diif

Nope, it's only Apple users getting screwed with soldered SSDs. They are a hardware company that remove the ability for their users to upgrade to gouge even more money and differentiate models.

There might be a few non Apple devices with soldered SSDs but any manufacturer of motherboards or assembler of PCs or laptops would be seriously hampering their sales if they did this, I also seriously doubt it will happen.

Microsoft Surface: Let me introduce myself.

Soldered SSDs are probably a ting with tablets and mobile phones.

We're not going to see it on desktops probably but on laptops maybe.

**Dan81** · 07-30-2021, 12:57 PM

Technically... ASUS does use soldered in RAM at this point, so it wouldn't seem too far off to include a form of soldered SSD (or eMMC.).

**TechGeek** · 07-30-2021, 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by grss1982

Microsoft Surface: Let me introduce myself.

Soldered SSDs are probably a ting with tablets and mobile phones.

We're not going to see it on desktops probably but on laptops maybe.

If I ever see soldered eMMC/NVMe/RAM on a desktop computer, that crap is going right back in the box and back to where it came from.

**Phaihn** · 09-05-2021, 09:54 PM

My system is a
i7 4771
16GB DDR3
msi gtx 960 100 million edition
8TB WD red, 4TB WD black, 2TB WD black, 1TB WD blue ssd.
PSU thermaltake 750watt? 80+ bronze.
Creative sound blaster zx i think.
1440p samsung monitor.

07-23-2021, 03:05 AM	#843
Dan81 SNES-powered Join Date: Oct 2013 City & State: Bacau My Country: Romania Line Voltage: 230VAC 50Hz I'm a: Hobbyist Tech Posts: 1,709	Re: Post your system....... I still have 2x 74GB Raptors, love 'em and the way they sound. __________________ Main rig: Gigabyte B75M-D3H Core i5-3470 3.60GHz Gigabyte Geforce GTX650 1GB GDDR5 16GB DDR3-1600 Samsung SH-224AB DVD-RW FSP Bluestorm II 500W (recapped) 120GB ADATA + 2x Seagate Barracuda ES.2 ST31000340NS 1TB Delux MG760 case

07-23-2021, 07:03 AM	#845
eccerr0r Solder Sloth Join Date: Nov 2012 City & State: CO My Country: USA Line Voltage: 120VAC 60Hz I'm a: Hobbyist Tech Posts: 8,133	Re: Post your system....... "modern" sub 400GB SSDs piss me off... old ones are better! oh crap...wrong thread.

07-23-2021, 08:23 AM	#848
BigTroll Badcaps Veteran Join Date: Sep 2010 City & State: Jefferson My Country: LAMBDA SOND Line Voltage: 120VAC 60Hz I'm a: Hardcore Geek Posts: 1,276	Re: Post your system....... Just wait till the PC industry adopts soldered SSDs like the new macs then everyone will be screwed. __________________ My Computer: AMD Ryzen 9 3900X, Asrock X370 Killer SLI/AC, 32GB G.SKILL TRIDENT Z RGB DDR4 3200, 500GB WD Black NVME and 2TB Toshiba HD,Geforce RTX 3080 FOUNDERS Edition, In-Win 303 White, EVGA SuperNova 750 G3, Windows 10 Pro

07-24-2021, 11:01 AM	#856
Dan81 SNES-powered Join Date: Oct 2013 City & State: Bacau My Country: Romania Line Voltage: 230VAC 50Hz I'm a: Hobbyist Tech Posts: 1,709	Re: Post your system....... I can almost say the same for 2.5" laptop WD Blacks. Ironically the only good one I have (99% health, currently 1 weak sector) is in a HP G62-a35SO, of all things.

07-30-2021, 12:57 PM	#858
Dan81 SNES-powered Join Date: Oct 2013 City & State: Bacau My Country: Romania Line Voltage: 230VAC 50Hz I'm a: Hobbyist Tech Posts: 1,709	Re: Post your system....... Technically... ASUS does use soldered in RAM at this point, so it wouldn't seem too far off to include a form of soldered SSD (or eMMC.).

09-05-2021, 09:54 PM	#860
Phaihn Badcaps Veteran Join Date: Jan 2009 City & State: Edson, Alberta My Country: Canada I'm a: Hobbyist Tech Posts: 749	Re: Post your system....... My system is a i7 4771 16GB DDR3 msi gtx 960 100 million edition 8TB WD red, 4TB WD black, 2TB WD black, 1TB WD blue ssd. PSU thermaltake 750watt? 80+ bronze. Creative sound blaster zx i think. 1440p samsung monitor. __________________ My Computer. AMD APU A4-3300 2.5ghz 1mb cache Motherboard GigaByte GA-A75M-S2V Kingston HyperX Blue DDR3 8GB (2x4GB) SB Audigy 2 ZS [B800] Sound Card 500GB WD Caviar® Blue™ 1 Terabyte WD Caviar® Black™ 2 Terabyte WD Caviar® Black™