The Hall of Shame - Badcaps Photo Montage - Page 6

**kc8adu** · 08-16-2007, 02:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Phenos

FuhTin? bulged capacitors pulled from HP x4000 Workstation memory controller card. 1000uF 10Volt

definately fuh yin
i wound up with about 100 of the x4000 boxen here.
beware the hn/hm on the backside too.change those and add the 4th that is blank.
a neighbors just died and he had inspected it last month and saw no bulging.
the hn/hm blew up during near record heat .
didnt help that this guy smokes like a chimmney and his kids have cats and a dog.
makes regular blowouts with compressed air mandatory.

**kc8adu** · 08-18-2007, 08:17 PM

grp with a faked?
matsushita logo.
from a cheap junk fluorescent ballast.

**lucky13** · 08-23-2007, 04:39 PM

HERMEI
1000uF/16V 105° LZ Series
Found in the power supply of a Viewsonic LCD monitor

**Newbie2** · 08-24-2007, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by lucky13

HERMEI
1000uF/16V 105° LZ Series
Found in the power supply of a Viewsonic LCD monitor

Seems now HERMEI likes to use Panasonic's T vent.

I pulled 2 1000uf 10V HERMEI caps out of a L&C PSU (purchased with case in 2005) with the same vents.

**stevo1210** · 08-25-2007, 08:59 PM

I removed a bulging Koshin 1000uf 10V cap and also a "Saturn" brand 1000uf 10V cap from a DEER PSU.
The Koshin cap had a grey coloured sleeving and was 10mm in diaemter, the Saturn cap was had a balck sleeve and was 8mm in diameter.
The Saturn cap was on the +5V SB and the 10V Koshin was on the 5V line I think?? The motherboard it was powering had a burnt southbridge.
Wish i had a camera here right now but unfortunately it's on the charger.... I'll post some pics soon.

**Tom41** · 08-26-2007, 12:28 AM

Is this the 'Saturn' brand cap you're talking about?

I don't believe we ever positively identified these caps, but most people believe they are rebranded Lelon caps. They sure vent like Lelons

**linuxguru** · 08-26-2007, 12:45 AM

Yup - that's the one I call 'Saturn'. It's pretty ubiquitous, especially in Deer/L&C PSUs, and it's got higher failure rates than Fuhjyyu/CapXon, about the same as Jun Fu, and probably a tad better than YEC/Chhsi/GSC.

**stevo1210** · 08-26-2007, 06:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom41

Is this the 'Saturn' brand cap you're talking about?

I don't believe we ever positively identified these caps, but most people believe they are rebranded Lelon caps. They sure vent like Lelons

That's it. The Saturn that I removed had bulged though and leaked electrolyte out the top. hmm.... will we ever be able to find out what brand this type of cap is??

**Newbie2** · 08-26-2007, 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by stevo1210

That's it. The Saturn that I removed had bulged though and leaked electrolyte out the top. hmm.... will we ever be able to find out what brand this type of cap is??

We could call them off as generic no-name caps...

Phenos · 08-27-2007, 12:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kc8adu

definately fuh yin
i wound up with about 100 of the x4000 boxen here.
beware the hn/hm on the backside too.change those and add the 4th that is blank.
a neighbors just died and he had inspected it last month and saw no bulging.
the hn/hm blew up during near record heat .
didnt help that this guy smokes like a chimmney and his kids have cats and a dog.
makes regular blowouts with compressed air mandatory.

Yup it had the famous bulged HM caps, I replaced the memory controller card with a new recapped card.

Phenos · 09-24-2007, 05:07 PM

Teapo with panasonic vent copy, It's currently on my Sapphire grouper Mainboard.

The 2nd picture is also a "Saturn/SC?" brand capacitor 330uF 200V.

**Big Pope** · 09-24-2007, 10:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phenos

Teapo with panasonic vent copy, It's currently on my Sapphire grouper Mainboard.

The 2nd picture is also a "Saturn/SC?" brand capacitor 330uF 200V.

Teapo with Panasonic "T" vent?

This is the first time i see this, so surprising.....

May be Teapo have changed their vent, when your mothwebaord is produce?

**PeteS in CA** · 09-25-2007, 11:11 AM

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Yup it had the famous bulged HM caps ...

The date code on one of those HMs is "H0146." That would mean it was manufactured in the 46th week of 2001. Weren't the (in)famous bad lot of HMs and HNs made in late 2003 or early 2004? The "H0146" HMs are nearly 6 years old. Perhaps they are simply old age failures (assuming the parts have been in continuous use and no problems with airflow)? IIRC, HM (like all the other ultra-low impedance caps) are rated for 2000 hours at rated max. ripple and temp.

Phenos · 09-25-2007, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by PeteS in CA

The date code on one of those HMs is "H0146." That would mean it was manufactured in the 46th week of 2001. Weren't the (in)famous bad lot of HMs and HNs made in late 2003 or early 2004? The "H0146" HMs are nearly 6 years old. Perhaps they are simply old age failures (assuming the parts have been in continuous use and no problems with airflow)? IIRC, HM (like all the other ultra-low impedance caps) are rated for 2000 hours at rated max. ripple and temp.

You are right, these systems were 24/7 online and the Affected HM series are from 2003~2004. Cooling/airflow was good though.

**PeteS in CA** · 09-25-2007, 01:10 PM

So those caps had 45K-50K hours, maybe more.

**Tom41** · 09-25-2007, 04:09 PM

I've seen several cap manufacturers that appear to use a 'saturn' style logo. Most of them are bad caps, so it's generally a safe bet that a 'saturn' cap will be short-lived!

Also, the two smaller caps with no sheath underneath the Teapos - are they bulged?

Phenos · 09-26-2007, 04:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom41

I've seen several cap manufacturers that appear to use a 'saturn' style logo. Most of them are bad caps, so it's generally a safe bet that a 'saturn' cap will be short-lived!

Also, the two smaller caps with no sheath underneath the Teapos - are they bulged?

The small unsleeved caps have a flat top. it's the foto. Don't know it's brand either, it has a small sphere/circle on top. don't know where it belongs to.

**PeteS in CA** · 09-26-2007, 10:45 AM

Those are Nichicon UD series.

Phenos · 09-26-2007, 04:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big Pope

Teapo with Panasonic "T" vent?

This is the first time i see this, so surprising.....

May be Teapo have changed their vent, when your mothwebaord is produce?

Don't know the production date, The bios is from: 04-17-06 DD-MM-YY ( depends on country)

Phenos · 09-28-2007, 05:41 PM

1. Koshin 2200uF 16V cap do they allways use the ELNA Vent?
2. GINCON 470uF 200V
3. Skywell SEL, UNI-CON 330uF 16V, Looks like polymer caps, it's on a VGA card bundled with Sanyo OS-CONS.

08-25-2007, 08:59 PM	#105
stevo1210 Badcaps Veteran Join Date: Oct 2006 City & State: Eastern coast My Country: Australia Line Voltage: 240V 50Hz I'm a: Hobbyist Tech Posts: 4,012	Re: The Hall of Shame - Badcaps Photo Montage I removed a bulging Koshin 1000uf 10V cap and also a "Saturn" brand 1000uf 10V cap from a DEER PSU. The Koshin cap had a grey coloured sleeving and was 10mm in diaemter, the Saturn cap was had a balck sleeve and was 8mm in diameter. The Saturn cap was on the +5V SB and the 10V Koshin was on the 5V line I think?? The motherboard it was powering had a burnt southbridge. Wish i had a camera here right now but unfortunately it's on the charger.... I'll post some pics soon. __________________ Don't find love, let love find you. That's why its called falling in love, because you don't force yourself to fall, you just fall. - Anonymous

08-26-2007, 12:28 AM	#106
Tom41 Badcaps Veteran Join Date: Oct 2005 City & State: Leeds My Country: England Line Voltage: 230VAC 50Hz Posts: 307	Re: The Hall of Shame - Badcaps Photo Montage Is this the 'Saturn' brand cap you're talking about? I don't believe we ever positively identified these caps, but most people believe they are rebranded Lelon caps. They sure vent like Lelons __________________ You know there's something wrong when you open your PC and it has vented Rubycons...

08-26-2007, 12:45 AM	#107
linuxguru Badcaps Veteran Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 1,559	Re: The Hall of Shame - Badcaps Photo Montage Yup - that's the one I call 'Saturn'. It's pretty ubiquitous, especially in Deer/L&C PSUs, and it's got higher failure rates than Fuhjyyu/CapXon, about the same as Jun Fu, and probably a tad better than YEC/Chhsi/GSC.

09-25-2007, 01:10 PM	#115
PeteS in CA Badcaps Veteran Join Date: Aug 2005 City & State: San Jose, CA My Country: USA, Unsure of Planet Line Voltage: 120VAC, 60Hz & 115VAC, 400Hz I'm a: Professional Tech Posts: 3,466	Re: The Hall of Shame - Badcaps Photo Montage So those caps had 45K-50K hours, maybe more.

09-25-2007, 04:09 PM	#116
Tom41 Badcaps Veteran Join Date: Oct 2005 City & State: Leeds My Country: England Line Voltage: 230VAC 50Hz Posts: 307	Re: The Hall of Shame - Badcaps Photo Montage I've seen several cap manufacturers that appear to use a 'saturn' style logo. Most of them are bad caps, so it's generally a safe bet that a 'saturn' cap will be short-lived! Also, the two smaller caps with no sheath underneath the Teapos - are they bulged?

09-26-2007, 10:45 AM	#118
PeteS in CA Badcaps Veteran Join Date: Aug 2005 City & State: San Jose, CA My Country: USA, Unsure of Planet Line Voltage: 120VAC, 60Hz & 115VAC, 400Hz I'm a: Professional Tech Posts: 3,466	Re: The Hall of Shame - Badcaps Photo Montage Those are Nichicon UD series.