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New Member
Join Date: Sep 2021
City & State: Singapore
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![]() Hi,
I have a 6 years old Rowenta table top oven. The oven have both convection and grill function. Last Christmas I used it to roast a turkey with the convection mode for about 4 hours without any problem. When I switched to grill mode to deep browning the turkey for the final half hour, the power trips after a while. I have not been using the oven since then. Last week, when I try to use the oven again, both convection and grill mode trip the power supply a few minutes after turning it on. As I was too busy with my work, I leave it to the repairman rather then Googling for solution and do the repair myself. After a few minute into repair, he solved the problem. The oven can be use in all mode without tripping. I grilled my pizza for lunch. Then it come to my thought what have the repairman done to stop the oven from tripping the power supply? Could it be that he removed the grounding of the chasis? I called him He said the chasis is now bonded to neutral, rather then ground. So if there is current leakage, it will trip the power supply too. Further thought, I asked what if there is a swapped in the power plug between the live and neutral or there is an error connection in the wall supply, then would the chasis be electrify with live ? He said yes!! Is this code of practice by "grounding" the chasis to neutral acceptable? I think there is a very high risk to take if there is swap in the polarity either at the wall supply or the extension plug or even the oven plug itself. |
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Great Sage 齊天大聖
Join Date: Dec 2009
City & State: Europe
My Country: some shithole run by Israeli agents
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![]() it's dangerous and also typical of the type of bs that goes on in some asian countries.
like using those shower heads with built in heaters that just pass electricity through the water - over your head! |
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Believe in
Join Date: Jul 2010
City & State: Bucharest
My Country: Romania
Line Voltage: 230VAC 50Hz
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![]() Neutral should only bond to earth at the main panel and indeed, tying the chassis of a metallic appliance to neutral is very naughty and dangerous. You should look into getting a new oven soon.
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Leaking Member
Join Date: Dec 2014
City & State: Atlantic Canada
My Country: Canada
Line Voltage: Ground, 0Hz
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![]() maybe that works over there... over here that repair isn't any good.
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Join Date: Jul 2005
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Line Voltage: 230v 50Hz
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![]() In the west that "electrician" would go to jail or get an extreme fine if that appliance hurt somebody after that "fix"
But very good on you for asking the right questions, 99.9% of people would have no clue... Here is a similar thread but with some ideas you could borrow to try to repair it more properly. I would just recommend to buy a new one though, unless it is very expensive. https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=84293
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Solder Sloth
Join Date: Nov 2012
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![]() With Singapore's strict laws I'm surprised there isn't one to stop someone from doing this too...
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![]() i soon found this article ... https://www.fixwerks.com/the-beginne...s-and-repairs/
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Join Date: Sep 2021
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Leaking Member
Join Date: Dec 2014
City & State: Atlantic Canada
My Country: Canada
Line Voltage: Ground, 0Hz
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![]() Sorry, if I sound rude... but then it is a neglect on your part of not doing so and you are willing to take the risk. Period. In my case I love my kids or any one else in my residence more than carry that kind of risk. That is only my opinion... do what you want... just don't complain later. After all these safety devices are there for a reason.
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