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![]() just got myself a new toy cant wait for the post
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![]() Watched the assembly process a couple days ago, this if for the KADA 852D+
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=quGs3q9nsA8 Funny how the picture has a stamp, tatoo-supplies ![]() How much did you pay for it? |
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![]() £50 but think should be ok i hope ?
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![]() the pic is not place i got it from lol SMD Soldering Rework Station Hot Air & Iron 852D+ 5Tips ESD PLCC High Quality F
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![]() That's dirt cheap!
I think those tips on the soldering iron are interchangeable with the ones from hakko 936. |
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![]() thats new aswell they have gd feed bk on these do you think tips will be ok or do you have link for better tips
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![]() True price in China about 40$ USD
I am aware that a huge cargo boat unloaded to UK huge numbers of those and similar. Of all sort of brands. Chinese people are acting as sellers in UK, and even offer free shipping. A complete Hot Air handle replacement cost less than 8$ USD. My Advice, seek for one of these. This 60W soldering iron is useless for motherboards, and five layer PCB. When you will think that you do not need toys any more, you will move to a 90W one which it does using very specific spare parts, and they are more robust. Last edited by Kiriakos GR; 03-01-2014 at 04:56 AM.. |
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i got mine for almost 4 years. i change the tip with the large one the first (top) and it can handle anything of course i got a gordak 952a but the iron its still the same .(heat element) "is useless for motherboards" Yes! it is useless if you don`t know how to use your tools. if someone shows some tricks how to do it with low budget tools you can do it even with heated NAIL.
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![]() thanks dj do have a link for parts i could use to upgrade many thanks
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![]() Heat transfer improvements cannot bring back to you 90W of heating power, no matter how powerful magician you are.
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![]() I have a chinese smd rework station MASTER 852 ( Same build with different names ) , but sadly the soldering iron is too weak.
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![]() that's why they made high end tools a better productivity |
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![]() [offtopic] 5 layer PCBs are rarer than hens teeth. Layer counts above 1 are even because of how the boards are made - symmetrically - no point in cutting a layer off.
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Therefore in this difficulty when the soldering iron is capable for rapid recovery due thermal loss as all those 400 - 600$ soldering stations, you do have in your side a major advantage. And If you spend about 170$ for one ATTEN AT90DH, your wallet accepts another 250$ advantage too. |
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![]() Productivity it is not actualy translate with money and profitability, productivity saves you even time that you could spend with your girl friend, or with friends, or with your kids. |
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![]() i think that a proper tool is the beginning of the stage.
you can`t appreciate the best tool even if someone hits you in the head if don`t know how to use it. i think that the low budget tools are made for that thing only. To "play" around. only if manage to pass that stage and do incredible things with it, you can really appreciate the value of a great Tool. I got a question witch do you prefer to learn with the best tool or the lowest? i think that it depends of the situation. |
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![]() There is one parameter which many they do ignore.
This called as quality of service, if for example I try to de-solder and re-solder one part for thee times and the PCB pads start getting destroyed... this is 100% due my stupidity of not using the right tools for the job. The inappropriate in quality tools causing damage, and this damages your personal reputation as repair man. When performing any repair I do offer a warranty period to my customer so to gain additional trust and loyalty. You can not have such high expectations about keeping close your customers when you use an axe instead of a fine blade. Training helps when you misusing a perfectly made tool for the job, but when comes down handling an axe, no one can teach you how to slice cheese with it. In conclusion, we do have a choice about selecting our tools, but only among the ones which are fine blades. Therefore when I become mad in forums, is because there is around many fake doctors which their ego and reactions damages the young ones heads in adapting healthy principals which will help them to advance and win in that constant competition which called as life. |
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![]() 90w iron?
So far, my hakko 888d (65w per manufacturer) has been able to handle anything i have thrown at it. AFAIK, the extra wattage just gets your recovery time faster. It goes from cold to 450c in under 20 seconds. I have also soldered, slowly, with a 30w pen iron. What does extra wattage get you? |
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![]() The ability to destroy components even faster.
I've done whole boards with a trusty Antex 690SD, it's a 65W iron. 0603 etc. No difficulty whatsoever. Only way it struggles is with big through hole components (like LG plasma IPMs), but for those you're better off using a high power unregulated iron. |
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