the gutless, bloated, and fried power supply hall of shame - Page 19

**japlytic** · 10-19-2012, 08:17 PM

This morning when I was at my computer, I heard a hissing sound and thought it was my monitor (which appears to be on its last legs), but I found out that it was a plugpack, DVD model DSA-0131F-05 and upon opening, a bulging 22uF 400V Jamicon TK (105C) unit was found.

The particular unit is of the self-oscillating type, secondary capacitors are 680uF 10V Jamicon WG (before and after output inductor), and as in the picture, the fuse is crossing the secondary side, even though it has heatshrink on it.

Has anyone else seen a bulging 400/450V Jamicon unit, especially if it is on the primary side?

**Behemot** · 10-20-2012, 12:18 AM

If it is cooking itself in its own juices, than it is no surprise it has gone bad…how long was it working?

**japlytic** · 10-20-2012, 02:58 AM

Honestly, I have no idea.
I meant DVE, not DVD.

**ben7** · 10-20-2012, 07:42 AM

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Originally Posted by japlytic

Honestly, I have no idea.
I meant DVE, not DVD.

Ah yes, I have a few DVE brand adapters. I think all of them are transformer based, not SMPS.

Did the hissing come from the capacitor exploding?

You should blow up the capacitor :P

-Ben

**Pentium4** · 10-22-2012, 01:49 PM

Here's a delicious Deer for you guys to admire

In these, when the sleeve bearing fan dies, they ALWAYS keep running until the switching transistors blow. I've seen 6 of them die and it's the switchers every time, as well as all the YC caps bulging

**Wester547** · 10-22-2012, 01:53 PM

Damn... that's a 28 size transformer there. Talk about pathetic....

On the other hand, many PSUs don't have over temperature protection, in all fairness, so they too continue to run when a fan seizes. But if the switchers die from a seized fan if you're not even running the PSU at even half its capacity then they must be pathetic as well.

**Behemot** · 10-22-2012, 02:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pentium4

Here's a delicious Deer for you guys to admire

In these, when the sleeve bearing fan dies, they ALWAYS keep running until the switching transistors blow. I've seen 6 of them die and it's the switchers every time, as well as all the YC caps bulging

Is the label 350 W at least?

I just hope thats B0S, not BOS on the transformer, if Brotherhood of Steel made such a crap, that would ruin all my belief in them

**Pentium4** · 10-22-2012, 02:57 PM

Yeah it happens to these things a lot

The label claims 250W. 192W on the 12V. Looks like B0S

**Behemot** · 10-22-2012, 03:12 PM

Thats not bad, it even looks it can do 200 W continuous, 250 W maybe. Expected more generous label

**goodpsusearch** · 10-22-2012, 03:15 PM

They are getting better.

**Pentium4** · 10-22-2012, 03:29 PM

They definitely are getting better. They need to at least put a ball bearing fan in there though. And fix the fan controller. The fan spins at the same speed at <50W as it does when it's pulling over 150W and it starts to get pretty hot.

**Behemot** · 10-22-2012, 03:29 PM

Well it's not so surprising after all, you can get 550W OCZ ZS with 80+ bronze certifications for some 55 USD…

**Pentium4** · 10-22-2012, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Behemot

Well it's not so surprising after all, you can get 550W OCZ ZS with 80+ bronze certifications for some 55 USD…

That's pretty good. Here is the exact PSU on Newegg, overpriced if you ask me. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...Power-Supplies

**Behemot** · 10-22-2012, 04:04 PM

Ah, it's SFX than? These are generally pricier…

**PeteS in CA** · 10-22-2012, 08:46 PM

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Looks like B0S

Maybe POS, Piece Of ...

I would guesstimate it at 150W-200W. Wasn't 185W common in that case size? It actually has an input filter on the AC side. OTOH, the O/P caps are all extra well done!

**Pentium4** · 10-22-2012, 11:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PeteS in CA

Maybe POS, Piece Of ...

I would guesstimate it at 150W-200W. Wasn't 185W common in that case size? It actually has an input filter on the AC side. OTOH, the O/P caps are all extra well done!

Hahaha

I actually have one being used for a linux box (requires around 100W continuous, around 160W under load) I recapped it and put a ball bearing fan in there. Just to see if the little bugger can last with a little upgrade

**Behemot** · 10-23-2012, 12:55 AM

It's actually pretty tough to get something usable in SFX factor, at least here. Everything is expensive and the best thing you can usually buy is something from FSP Group, full of crappy caps anyway.

ttn328 · 10-24-2012, 01:29 AM

VENR (fake ?) 450S-ATX

No EMI filter. Primary caps : Fhy 330uF - 200V x2 85C
Two transistors 5VSB: C945, D13003
Main switcher: D13007 x2. Very small main tranformer.
Secondary:
Rectifiers: S16C40C x2, F12C20C. No pi filters.
DC filter caps: 1000uF - 16V x3 , 470uF - 16V, 1000uF - 16V (5VSB), all BH 105C.
PWM controller : HS8108.

**Pentium4** · 10-24-2012, 01:56 AM

That thing is silkscreened to have PFC? That looks like a new age Leadman/Linkworld

ttn328 · 10-24-2012, 03:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Pentium4

That thing is silkscreened to have PFC? That looks like a new age Leadman/Linkworld

This PSU has no PFC, just jumbered. I don't know who is real manufacturer. This is their logo.

10-20-2012, 12:18 AM	#362
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10-20-2012, 02:58 AM	#363
japlytic Badcaps Veteran Join Date: Oct 2005 City & State: Rockhampton, Queensland, Australia My Country: Australia Line Voltage: 240VAC 50Hz I'm a: Hobbyist Posts: 2,011	Re: the gutless, bloated, and fried power supply hall of shame Honestly, I have no idea. I meant DVE, not DVD.

10-22-2012, 01:53 PM	#366
Wester547 - Join Date: Nov 2011 City & State: CA. My Country: USA. Line Voltage: 120-125VAC 60Hz. I'm a: Knowledge Seeker Posts: 1,268	Re: the gutless, bloated, and fried power supply hall of shame Damn... that's a 28 size transformer there. Talk about pathetic.... On the other hand, many PSUs don't have over temperature protection, in all fairness, so they too continue to run when a fan seizes. But if the switchers die from a seized fan if you're not even running the PSU at even half its capacity then they must be pathetic as well.

10-22-2012, 02:57 PM	#368
Pentium4 CapXon Be Gone Join Date: Sep 2011 City & State: Idaho My Country: USA Line Voltage: 120VAC 60Hz I'm a: Hobbyist Tech Posts: 3,227	Re: the gutless, bloated, and fried power supply hall of shame Yeah it happens to these things a lot The label claims 250W. 192W on the 12V. Looks like B0S

10-22-2012, 03:12 PM	#369
Behemot Badcaps Veteran Join Date: Dec 2009 City & State: Prague, 50°4'52.22"N, 14°23'30.45"E My Country: CZ Line Voltage: 230 V/50 Hz I'm a: Knowledge Seeker Posts: 4,778	Re: the gutless, bloated, and fried power supply hall of shame Thats not bad, it even looks it can do 200 W continuous, 250 W maybe. Expected more generous label

10-22-2012, 03:15 PM	#370
goodpsusearch Badcaps Veteran Join Date: Oct 2009 City & State: Thessaloniki, Greece My Country: Greece Line Voltage: 230VAC 50Hz I'm a: Knowledge Seeker Posts: 2,140	Re: the gutless, bloated, and fried power supply hall of shame They are getting better.

10-22-2012, 03:29 PM	#371
Pentium4 CapXon Be Gone Join Date: Sep 2011 City & State: Idaho My Country: USA Line Voltage: 120VAC 60Hz I'm a: Hobbyist Tech Posts: 3,227	Re: the gutless, bloated, and fried power supply hall of shame They definitely are getting better. They need to at least put a ball bearing fan in there though. And fix the fan controller. The fan spins at the same speed at <50W as it does when it's pulling over 150W and it starts to get pretty hot.

10-22-2012, 03:29 PM	#372
Behemot Badcaps Veteran Join Date: Dec 2009 City & State: Prague, 50°4'52.22"N, 14°23'30.45"E My Country: CZ Line Voltage: 230 V/50 Hz I'm a: Knowledge Seeker Posts: 4,778	Re: the gutless, bloated, and fried power supply hall of shame Well it's not so surprising after all, you can get 550W OCZ ZS with 80+ bronze certifications for some 55 USD…

10-22-2012, 04:04 PM	#374
Behemot Badcaps Veteran Join Date: Dec 2009 City & State: Prague, 50°4'52.22"N, 14°23'30.45"E My Country: CZ Line Voltage: 230 V/50 Hz I'm a: Knowledge Seeker Posts: 4,778	Re: the gutless, bloated, and fried power supply hall of shame Ah, it's SFX than? These are generally pricier…

10-23-2012, 12:55 AM	#377
Behemot Badcaps Veteran Join Date: Dec 2009 City & State: Prague, 50°4'52.22"N, 14°23'30.45"E My Country: CZ Line Voltage: 230 V/50 Hz I'm a: Knowledge Seeker Posts: 4,778	Re: the gutless, bloated, and fried power supply hall of shame It's actually pretty tough to get something usable in SFX factor, at least here. Everything is expensive and the best thing you can usually buy is something from FSP Group, full of crappy caps anyway.

10-24-2012, 01:56 AM	#379
Pentium4 CapXon Be Gone Join Date: Sep 2011 City & State: Idaho My Country: USA Line Voltage: 120VAC 60Hz I'm a: Hobbyist Tech Posts: 3,227	Re: the gutless, bloated, and fried power supply hall of shame That thing is silkscreened to have PFC? That looks like a new age Leadman/Linkworld Last edited by Pentium4; 10-24-2012 at 01:58 AM..