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    Any good resources on Sony TVs ?

    Good day folks. So I ended up working at a new place which mostly fixes Sonys among other things....a brand which I'm unfortunately not very familiar with and also not very fond of....at all, in fact - junk IMO. My job now mostly consists of replacing faulty boards entirely, since they're covered by warranty and the head office or whatever, located in the capital, sends them to us in exchange for the defective part - that's fine.

    However being the only "authorized" Sony center in the city, we also get quite a lot of Sonys which are past their warranty date and are thus not eligible for the replacement parts program, unless of course the client agrees to pays for it, which is obviously not happening - not at such high prices. So we're stuck with quite a lot of unfixable TVs which we have no choice but to scrap because the clients typically don't pick them up after being told they're irreparable.

    Sony provides us with an online platform which we can access for firmwares and service manuals and updates and whatnot, which sounds like a good thing, but that's not a whole hell of a lot because there's times when the information is pretty useless and generic and not what you'd expect from an "official" service manual. For instance, check out this TV: when the chap brought it in, the set would come on and display something for a little while, but then it'd display all sorts of lines and pixels and crap on the display which made me think it's a faulty main board rather than the panel because it happened instantly instead of "fading" in. Funny thing is that I carried over to a nearby table after it was dropped off, plugged it in again to show it to my coworker and now the thing no longer turns on AT ALL....what a POS

    Popped the back off, logged onto our support platform, found the appropriate service manual and began troubleshooting...or at least I was HOPING I'd troubleshoot because like I said, this is one of those instances where the service manual is far from comprehensive: no schematics and very bland descriptions like "no standby ? Check Fuse X"...yeah, thanks Sony, I believe we may need more than that at what claims to be an authorized repair center...makes me feel like they do this on purpose so you have no choice but to send them in to their head office so THEY can fix them and resell them, instead of giving someone else a try. Even if my brief knowledge tells me that a buck controller is faulty and needs replacing, where are you going to find such a thing ? You can't tell what it is and there's no silk screen on there either...

    KDL-32W650A BTW...attached some pics of the board and the DC-DC converter area which I suspect is faulty since I'm not getting any power at all to anything (just 3.3v on some small ceramic cap), but there's no LED coming on at the front and no other signs of life....any "alternative" sources of Sonys ? I don't claim to know anything and perhaps there's someone out there who's dealt with this before and is willing to help others evolve....cheers.
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    Re: Any good resources on Sony TVs ?

    F800 / F9102 / F9304 are okay ?

    it look No power no come out from X reality IC, it block it or it need reballing.. and of sure it was before the issue of lines on screen.

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      #3
      Re: Any good resources on Sony TVs ?

      Yes, all fuses that I could find are OK....I too suspected the main IC....no cooling on that, bad design IMO...
      Wattevah...

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        well friend, if you find for me the code of resetting the Operation Hours will be great, i have only resetting Panel Operation hours

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          #5
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          Hmm...will have a look tomorrow and steal some info if possible
          Wattevah...

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            #6
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            so no sony training manuals ? or telephone advice ?

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              #7
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              The so-called training manuals are basically nothing more than disassembly guides, not in-depth repair guides for the boards from what I saw. Haven't heard of any helplines yet...everything just sucks TBH
              Wattevah...

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                #8
                Re: Any good resources on Sony TVs ?

                BTW, you may be able to tell the OP how to remove the LVDS cable from one of the connector as shown in this thread here: https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=72670
                Never stop learning
                Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                Inverter testing using old CFL:
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                TV Factory reset codes listing:
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                  #9
                  Re: Any good resources on Sony TVs ?

                  Yeah, I just did that....you may read what I replied there so I don't have to double-post here as well
                  Wattevah...

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                    #10
                    Re: Any good resources on Sony TVs ?

                    Thanks! now I know that too.
                    BTW, how do you like working for SONY service center? Well paid, good training, etc.?
                    Never stop learning
                    Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                    Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                    Inverter testing using old CFL:
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                    Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                    http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                    TV Factory reset codes listing:
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                      #11
                      Re: Any good resources on Sony TVs ?

                      Well paid ? Yes, compared to my previous joint, definitely.
                      "Professional" ? Not at all...I was envisioning some highly professional facility with trained engineers walking around in white lab coats and gloves, each with their own impeccable workbenches and desks, with shelves upon shelves of carefully labeled and laid out spare parts, but no....not at all: it's more of a clusterfuck of things going on at once, stuff thrown everywhere with no rhyme or reason, loud and "generic" people running around bumping your arm, dim lighting (BIGGEST issue so far!) and overall mediocre skills and equipment....whatcha gonna do.....we're not actually a "Sony" center per-se: just a local joint who fixes some of their stuff under warranty, even though it friggin says "SONY - AUTHORIZED REPAIR CENTER" on the billboard just outside the front door >_> Fun fact: this sign was illuminated at some point, but now I can see the wire for the lights coiled around one of its legs that hold it staked to the ground....should be a clue as to what's going on here...guess they were embarrassed to show that off >_>

                      I know, it doesn't seem like I'm doing it any justice, but I'm not afraid to state the obvious....truth be told, it's only my first week, but as you know it's first impressions that count and let me tell you how I miss my old shop now. The only thing that keeps me going is the higher salary, other than that everything is sucky....even small stuff like the distance: I used to walk to my previous shop, it was that close, but this one is on the other side of the city, forcing me to drive there...poor car hasn't seen so much abuse in the past 4 years Patience, I'm hoping I'll get my chance to set things straight as I did at my former shop...patience, young grasshopper I'm not saying EVERY joint is like this, but this one is and I ended up in it
                      Wattevah...

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                        #12
                        Re: Any good resources on Sony TVs ?

                        Have a look at the warrany labor rates Sony pays, Its not great. and usually you do not make any profit on parts, so only labor. factor in the time to book in the product, locate the problem, order the parts, repair it, process the claim, return any defective parts.
                        And out of that amount pay the tech/s building utilities etc.
                        You need to do a lot of repairs fast to make any money.
                        Most sony repair centers are shut down because they could not make any money repairing one brand anymore.

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                          #13
                          Re: Any good resources on Sony TVs ?

                          yeap, that's the state of consumer electronics repair today.
                          you ask in the forum instead of asking sony.
                          (and i don't think real author. centers are any different)

                          i wonder, does even sony have the electric schemes for those things....lol!
                          probably not!

                          it's just not ment to be repaired, that's the sad truth.

                          best you can do is compare with a known working part (measuring voltages, scoping) and see if you can make your own service material, like sams in usa back in the day...heh
                          https://stevenjohnson.com/photofact.htm

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                            #14
                            Re: Any good resources on Sony TVs ?

                            Over 5 years ago the sony centers in Canada were doing warranty repairs based on the complaint, and would go to the customers home with either a power supply board, mainboard or panel, that was the extent of the repairs. No component repair.
                            That was the same with most of the other brands like samsung, lg, sharp, panasonic etc. Just replace the board and make the customer happy. Some like lg and samsung did'nt even want the old boards returned under warranty. Based on what they paid it was not worth repairing to component level. and there were no schematics usually, only a service manual with part numbers for board and cabinet parts.
                            The only real benefit to being a warranty depot was to get a deal on parts for out of warranty repairs and the mfg. would refer customers to you.
                            Last edited by R_J; 11-06-2018, 05:23 PM.

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                              #15
                              Re: Any good resources on Sony TVs ?

                              Originally posted by Dannyx View Post

                              However being the only "authorized" Sony center in the city, we also get quite a lot of Sonys which are past their warranty date and are thus not eligible for the replacement parts program, unless of course the client agrees to pays for it, which is obviously not happening - not at such high prices. So we're stuck with quite a lot of unfixable TVs which we have no choice but to scrap because the clients typically don't pick them up after being told they're irreparable.
                              Maybe you could make your job "work" for you. Since it sounds like your shop performs just board swapping and customers aren't willing to purchase an entire replacement board for an out of warranty set and wind up abandoning it at your shop, then maybe you could procure some of the nicer sets for yourself and repair them (while improving your troubleshooting skills at the same time) at the component level and resell them for a nice profit. The Sony name still carries status in the consumer market. Worst case is if you can't repair it, then you can part it out and sell off the good boards as they tend to sell at a premium price.

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                                The shop is one of the biggest in town and I was "lucky" (?) to land a job here, so it's no going back now, that's for sure. It's not only doing Sonys, it does everything I used to do at my old shop, just instead of one guy doing everything (me, in the case of the former place), there's several guys spread across multiple departments like printers, TVs, laptops, networking, etc....which sounds like the best possible scenario, but for some reason the boss decided to assign me to the most uneventful one possible, hopefully it's just temporary and I'll be able to move on...I'm aching to do more stuff, at least to keep me awake if anything (SLOWEST week of my life so far !), but you've got to start off small I guess....
                                Wattevah...

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                                  #17
                                  Re: Any good resources on Sony TVs ?

                                  Sounds like a good place to have good hand on experience in many kind of products.
                                  Never stop learning
                                  Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                                  Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                                  Inverter testing using old CFL:
                                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                                  Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                                  http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                                  TV Factory reset codes listing:
                                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                                    #18
                                    Re: Any good resources on Sony TVs ?

                                    Could be, but it takes time...nobody is gonna let the new guy have a go at their work, so you're kinda stuck, waiting for an opportunity to do something to pop up...
                                    Wattevah...

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                                      #19
                                      Re: Any good resources on Sony TVs ?

                                      Also yes, if you need a manual or something that seems unobtainable for a particular Sony, drop me a line and I'll see if I can source anything from our internal database, if it hadn't "leaked" already on the interwebs. I did a test to confirm this by running a pretty in-depth search on Google for a manual or anything for a particular Sony TV and I couldn't find the manual or documentation provided in this "closed-circuit website" of ours. They may not be of much use sometimes (a lot of "dross" on there - generic instructions and such), but better than nothing.
                                      Wattevah...

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