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    #61
    Re: [attachments are now working] Site is back, attachments aren't yet. Read this ple

    Originally posted by shovenose View Post
    Originally posted by brethin View Post
    I have x4 2U Supermicro X7DDB Dual Quad Core x5460's 12 Bay Sata Isilon Servers of which I am olny using 2 of at the moment. They are pretty hardy and would run BCN with no problem if you need any hardware. They have dual PSU's and dual BBU's with x3 SAS ports and x2 GB ports and x2 Infiniband GBE 10GB ports.
    That would cost more in power to run in the span of five years than a brand new server. Why do you think large businesses/datacenters replace perfectly good servers every few years? Because the performance per watt of older servers are crap compared to new ones.
    I agree with Shovenose here *gasp*

    While I love old workstation/server hardware, for actual usage, these sort of things do matter. Since this is an actual running website (and a relatively active one at that) power usage and reliability do add up. While I usually (and for my purpouses, still do) tout the build quality of this sort of hardware, given what (at least partially) ruined the old server, I wouldn't feel good replacing old with somewhat less old.

    Yeah, for my workstations I do run somewhat old and well-used 10K drives in RAID 0, but there's no way in hell I'd do that for anything critical (let alone a web or backup server). Not to say Brethin's mentioned hardware is anything like that (it isn't; it's actually some legitimately beefy hardware), but the point is that sometimes going used/older works fine (if not better). Other times, like this, newer and fresh is the only rational solution.
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      #62
      Re: [attachments are now working] Site is back, attachments aren't yet. Read this ple

      It's good as a spare mirror, as long as you don't pay that much for electricity (or have it for free), have reasonable connectivity and balancing set up the way it only sends traffic there if something is wrong with primary server.
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        #63
        Re: [attachments are now working] Site is back, attachments aren't yet. Read this ple

        The Private Messaging system that we had to disable is now enabled again.
        The database had some problems along with a scheduled task that prunes invalid PM's.
        But after some fixing on a local testserver it seems all good *knocks on wood*

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          #64
          Re: [attachments are now working] Site is back, attachments aren't yet. Read this ple

          The private messaging seems too be working fine it has kept all my old messages too.The forum is a lot faster so thanks again all involved in the change over.

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            #65
            Re: [attachments are now working] Site is back, attachments aren't yet. Read this ple

            Only one glitch I've had so far and not a biggie, it thinks I have an unread msg. and won't clear that notify.

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              #66
              Re: [attachments are now working] Site is back, attachments aren't yet. Read this ple

              Originally posted by SteveNielsen View Post
              Only one glitch I've had so far and not a biggie, it thinks I have an unread msg. and won't clear that notify.
              Highlight all the messages on page 1, then scroll to the bottom and mark them all as 'read'. fixed that for me.
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                #67
                Re: [attachments are now working] Site is back, attachments aren't yet. Read this ple

                Thanks. Got it. Sometimes the obvious escapes me.

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                  #68
                  Re: [attachments are now working] Site is back, attachments aren't yet. Read this ple

                  No unread messaged here. Test PM going to Topcat.
                  Don't buy those $10 PSU "specials". They fail, and they have taken whole computers with them.

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                    #69
                    Re: [attachments are now working] Site is back, attachments aren't yet. Read this ple

                    Originally posted by SteveNielsen View Post
                    Only one glitch I've had so far and not a biggie, it thinks I have an unread msg. and won't clear that notify.
                    lol I had the same problem but I did the same thing TC did and it worked.

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                      #70
                      Re: Site is back, attachments aren't yet. Read this please!

                      Originally posted by shovenose View Post
                      That would cost more in power to run in the span of five years than a brand new server. Why do you think large businesses/datacenters replace perfectly good servers every few years? Because the performance per watt of older servers are crap compared to new ones.
                      Not sure how you do math but by my figures and my electric bill running 2 of these for the past year added just $360 to my bill for the year. Divide that by 2 and that's $180 per server per year over 5 years that is $900. The servers cost me $200 so $200 + $900 = $1100 total cost per server over 5 years.

                      There is no way in hell you can buy a New Server even if it runs at half the cost and save any money.

                      Business do not buy new servers to be more efficient, they buy new servers for the tax advantage (depreciate value).

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                        #71
                        Re: Site is back, attachments aren't yet. Read this please!

                        Originally posted by brethin View Post
                        I have x4 2U Supermicro X7DDB Dual Quad Core x5460's 12 Bay Sata Isilon Servers of which I am olny using 2 of at the moment. They are pretty hardy and would run BCN with no problem if you need any hardware. They have dual PSU's and dual BBU's with x3 SAS ports and x2 GB ports and x2 Infiniband GBE 10GB ports.
                        If you're willing to donate them, yes, we could make use of them for sure.
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                          #72
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                          Originally posted by brethin View Post
                          Not sure how you do math but by my figures and my electric bill running 2 of these for the past year added just $360 to my bill for the year. Divide that by 2 and that's $180 per server per year over 5 years that is $900. The servers cost me $200 so $200 + $900 = $1100 total cost per server over 5 years.

                          There is no way in hell you can buy a New Server even if it runs at half the cost and save any money.

                          Business do not buy new servers to be more efficient, they buy new servers for the tax advantage (depreciate value).
                          I bet your power is cheaper than mine.

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                            #73
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                            Originally posted by shovenose View Post
                            I bet your power is cheaper than mine.
                            Just out of curiosity, what do they charge per KW/H there?
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                              #74
                              Re: Migration Complete, everything is working....post here if you think it isn't

                              I have FTTH here. Apparently, the reason it seems slow sometimes, is because of Halo CE's networking code.

                              Every test passed with flying colours!

                              I have a Halo CE server on my Core 2 system.

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                                #75
                                Re: Site is back, attachments aren't yet. Read this please!

                                Originally posted by Topcat View Post
                                Just out of curiosity, what do they charge per KW/H there?
                                Too much. And gas is also ridiculous - $2.59/gal dammit!

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                                  #76
                                  Re: Migration Complete, everything is working....post here if you think it isn't

                                  1 litre gas in Sweden is roughly 12SEK which is currently $1.4
                                  A US liquid gallon is 3.785 litre which makes the gas price here $5.3 so think about that next time you fill up and I'm sure you will smile
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                                    #77
                                    Re: Migration Complete, everything is working....post here if you think it isn't

                                    When Katrina hit New Orleans the price went up to that in Atlanta Georgia. We were told that 3 of our 5 pipelines were out because of the storm.
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                                      #78
                                      Re: Migration Complete, everything is working....post here if you think it isn't

                                      Originally posted by shovenose View Post
                                      Too much. And gas is also ridiculous - $2.59/gal dammit!


                                      And I thought 1.75 was bad (up in Lafayette IN it's around 1.35, whew). Better than the 3 or 4 a gallon days though...
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                                        #79
                                        Re: Migration Complete, everything is working....post here if you think it isn't

                                        Originally posted by ratdude747 View Post


                                        And I thought 1.75 was bad (up in Lafayette IN it's around 1.35, whew). Better than the 3 or 4 a gallon days though...
                                        $1.35... Wow, that would be great! Time to drive across the country lol!

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                                          #80
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                                          Originally posted by Topcat View Post
                                          KW/H
                                          That's some very silly unit. What does it mean? Something like power acceleration?

                                          Anyway, local gas is about 3.19 without VAT (which I can finally deduct, at least, otherwise its another 21 %).

                                          As for electricity, the regulatory burreay is ATM trying to shift all the taxation for that renewable energy sources bullshit donations from big industry to small people. Soon it will be better to get your own electric generator here and smuggle pure gasoline (without all that bio shit=cheaper and better) from Ukraine or something.
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