Xbox 1.6 Motherboards and Polymer Capacitors

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  • stj
    Great Sage 齊天大聖
    • Dec 2009
    • 30948
    • Albion

    #21
    Re: Xbox 1.6 Motherboards and Polymer Capacitors

    unless there is a jumper on the board or something, i dont know why you couldnt flash an Aladin

    i will say though, i prefer the 1.0 - 1.5 models for this reason.

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    • qwerty99
      Member
      • Jun 2022
      • 17
      • ukay

      #22
      Re: Xbox 1.6 Motherboards and Polymer Capacitors

      Originally posted by stj
      unless there is a jumper on the board or something, i dont know why you couldnt flash an Aladin

      i will say though, i prefer the 1.0 - 1.5 models for this reason.
      Recent Aladdins come with a different chip on them, so you can't flash them unless you have an external programmer.

      Pain in the arse because it means it's another piece of equipment that I have to buy.

      I don't usually mind buying tools, but an eeprom programmer is not something I'll ever likely use again once I've done the initial flash.

      I'll probably end up buying one though because the Aladdins can be bought for less than $10. The Open Xenium chips are starting at around 40 to 50 not including shipping.

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      • stj
        Great Sage 齊天大聖
        • Dec 2009
        • 30948
        • Albion

        #23
        Re: Xbox 1.6 Motherboards and Polymer Capacitors

        wellllll,
        i dont know how your flashing them, but there are several tools
        i used to install Linux, and then from linux i ran a flasher called "raincoat" or something like that.
        it recognised a hell of a lot of chips and could be updated because the chip details were in a text file i think.

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        • qwerty99
          Member
          • Jun 2022
          • 17
          • ukay

          #24
          Re: Xbox 1.6 Motherboards and Polymer Capacitors

          Originally posted by stj
          wellllll,
          i dont know how your flashing them, but there are several tools
          i used to install Linux, and then from linux i ran a flasher called "raincoat" or something like that.
          it recognised a hell of a lot of chips and could be updated because the chip details were in a text file i think.
          I've never had to flash anything with an external programmer, so I don't have a clue about what tools and software I need.

          Any tips on the best programmer to use?

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          • stj
            Great Sage 齊天大聖
            • Dec 2009
            • 30948
            • Albion

            #25
            Re: Xbox 1.6 Motherboards and Polymer Capacitors

            i'm talking about in the xbox - use xbox-linux
            https://github.com/not404/raincoat

            do you know the chip partnumber?
            https://github.com/not404/raincoat/b...c/flashtypes.h

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            • qwerty99
              Member
              • Jun 2022
              • 17
              • ukay

              #26
              Re: Xbox 1.6 Motherboards and Polymer Capacitors

              Originally posted by stj
              i'm talking about in the xbox - use xbox-linux
              https://github.com/not404/raincoat

              do you know the chip partnumber?
              https://github.com/not404/raincoat/b...c/flashtypes.h
              I think the new Aladdins contain this chip:

              SST49LF002A

              which, supposedly, can't be flashed without an external programmer.

              I think I read it on this thread:

              https://www.reddit.com/r/originalxbo...less_you_have/

              SST49LF002A does appear in the raincoat file. So does this mean that these chips can be flashed while in the Xbox?

              Thanks

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              • stj
                Great Sage 齊天大聖
                • Dec 2009
                • 30948
                • Albion

                #27
                Re: Xbox 1.6 Motherboards and Polymer Capacitors

                yes, if the id is in the file it can flash it

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                • qwerty99
                  Member
                  • Jun 2022
                  • 17
                  • ukay

                  #28
                  Re: Xbox 1.6 Motherboards and Polymer Capacitors

                  Originally posted by stj
                  yes, if the id is in the file it can flash it
                  Interesting! I'm going to have to do some reading.

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                  • NeMesiS34
                    Member
                    • Sep 2015
                    • 37
                    • Australia

                    #29
                    Re: Xbox 1.6 Motherboards and Polymer Capacitors

                    Hello all,

                    I've been using an "Xgecu TL866II programmer" for ST M29F080A-90N1 (TSOP40), ST M29F002BT-70NI (TSOP32) and Atmel AT24C02N-27SU (EEPROM) for the Original Xbox. I've also been using it for Atmel ATtiny45-20SU (SOIC8), PIC12C508 (SOIC8), ST SST49LF002A and Cypress S29AL016J70TFI010 (TSOP48) for a variety of modchips. There are newer models "Xgecu T48 & T56" but cost a bit more. There's a list of supported IC's on their website. There are TSOP flashing tools/apps available for the OGXbox, I would highly recommend the one by "Rocky5", this method can only be done on motherboard versions v1.0 to 1.5 and will require 2x 0603 pads to be bridged...

                    I hope this helps, NeMesiS

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                    • stj
                      Great Sage 齊天大聖
                      • Dec 2009
                      • 30948
                      • Albion

                      #30
                      Re: Xbox 1.6 Motherboards and Polymer Capacitors

                      yes, but he has 1.6 boards

                      how reliable are your tsop adapters?
                      i have hell getting mine to work without pin errors
                      obviously they arent as good as yakamichi but they dont cost $80 either!

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                      • NeMesiS34
                        Member
                        • Sep 2015
                        • 37
                        • Australia

                        #31
                        Re: Xbox 1.6 Motherboards and Polymer Capacitors

                        He could go down the soft-modded road...
                        But depending on he's situation that may not be possible.

                        I haven't had too much issues with my TSOP adapters,
                        I would typically do 100pcs in a single sitting...

                        @stj, After spending most of the day reading through the many
                        CPU capacitor threads, your name came up alot...

                        I'm highly involved in the xbox modding community and
                        would like to talk to you directly if you don't mind...

                        Cheers, Nem

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                        • stj
                          Great Sage 齊天大聖
                          • Dec 2009
                          • 30948
                          • Albion

                          #32
                          Re: Xbox 1.6 Motherboards and Polymer Capacitors

                          sure - pm me

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                          • NeMesiS34
                            Member
                            • Sep 2015
                            • 37
                            • Australia

                            #33
                            Re: Xbox 1.6 Motherboards and Polymer Capacitors

                            Thanks, will do...

                            Well now that I think of it, I did have pin error issues.
                            It came close to driving me crazy, turned out it was the USB cable.
                            Don't ask me why...

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                            • stj
                              Great Sage 齊天大聖
                              • Dec 2009
                              • 30948
                              • Albion

                              #34
                              Re: Xbox 1.6 Motherboards and Polymer Capacitors

                              i could try a new cable, but why would it not effect dip and plcc package chips?
                              i prog and dump gals and eproms all the time and NEVER get pin errors - only with tsops.

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                              • qwerty99
                                Member
                                • Jun 2022
                                • 17
                                • ukay

                                #35
                                Re: Xbox 1.6 Motherboards and Polymer Capacitors

                                Thanks as always for the replies!

                                Digikey took so long to deliver the caps (over a month) that when they finally arrived I didn't have the time to fit them.

                                I'll probably do them over Christmas when I get some time off work.

                                Will post back if I'm successful.

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                                • stj
                                  Great Sage 齊天大聖
                                  • Dec 2009
                                  • 30948
                                  • Albion

                                  #36
                                  Re: Xbox 1.6 Motherboards and Polymer Capacitors

                                  yea, that was kind of predictable using a u.s. supplier.
                                  ali-express takes 2weeks or less with "ali saver shipping" option,
                                  RS,Farnell etc take 5days or less.

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                                  • qwerty99
                                    Member
                                    • Jun 2022
                                    • 17
                                    • ukay

                                    #37
                                    Re: Xbox 1.6 Motherboards and Polymer Capacitors

                                    Hello stj and everyone else!

                                    Finally had the time to do some work on one of the Xboxes I accumulated over the year.

                                    Replaced the CPU and PSU caps with the polymers I listed previously, and they work a treat. Also removed the clock cap and replaced it with a normal 16v 470uf electrolytic.

                                    The 20-year-old caps were actually all in decent condition. All showed correct capacitance and the esr was very low - pretty much the same as the new replacement polymers.

                                    Decided to fit an XboxHD+ as well, because the good HDMi adaptors are either out of stock or even more expensive than this board.

                                    Thanks again stj and everyone else who helped me with this. Couldn't have done it without you!
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