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Old 08-14-2020, 01:37 PM   #1
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Unhappy Trying to De-solder an Xbox Elite series 2 gaming controller.

Hello my name is Tj and I'm very new to electronics and honestly forums in general. I just recently finished my first project which was an alarm clock soldering kit from Amazon. My friends Xbox controller is broken and me just finishing this clock figured I could help him out. I think I found the component that is the cause but I can't get the solder to melt and stick to my solder wick. I can't even get it to melt when I stick the iron straight on it. I'm using a X-tronic model #3020 soldering iron controller at 450C. Any help would be appreciated.
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Old 08-14-2020, 05:11 PM   #2
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Default Re: Trying to De-solder an Xbox Elite series 2 gaming controller.

You are going to have issues with multi-layer boards are sometimes hard to work with
I have had to use a Desoldering Gun and a temperature controlled hot air gun

You do have to practice using this setup on boards that you do not give a shit about
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Old 08-14-2020, 05:38 PM   #3
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Default Re: Trying to De-solder an Xbox Elite series 2 gaming controller.

try adding new solder first .
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Old 08-15-2020, 05:47 AM   #4
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Default Re: Trying to De-solder an Xbox Elite series 2 gaming controller.

try not burning the flux, you dont solder at 450' - you need 350'
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Old 08-23-2020, 10:26 AM   #5
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Default Re: Trying to De-solder an Xbox Elite series 2 gaming controller.

Like SAM noted, try practicing on some scrap boards first to get a feel for SMD work. Also, forget about using wick with that soldering iron - it's not going to work well at all. You need good flux instead, as that is key to SMD soldering. Would also probably be useful to have some 60-40 leaded solder around (if not straight low-temp melt solder) to soften some of the lead-free solder on the board.

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try not burning the flux, you dont solder at 450' - you need 350'
350C won't be any good though, as his station uses 900M series tips. Those are just not good enough for soldering on tougher Pb-free ML PCBs (which the Xbox is.)

T12 is where the money's at. With a powerful-enough station, those can transfer a lot more heat. I regularly use my 75-Watt T12 station to directly desolder TO-252 MOSFETs from Xbox 360 motherboard with the help of a 30-Watt iron. No hot air or pre-heating needed at all.

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