the gutless, bloated, and fried power supply hall of shame - Page 7

**c_hegge** · 01-26-2011, 04:44 AM

It was, but it's dead now.

**370forlife** · 01-26-2011, 07:07 AM

Somewhat modern design. Two transistor forward, but no PFC.

**c_hegge** · 01-26-2011, 05:01 PM

It may be modern, but it's still a gutless wonder. I expect better for $55.

**Agent24** · 01-26-2011, 07:55 PM

$55 for THAT? I guess it's because it's got Gigabyte all over it.. what a ripoff.

Badcappy · 01-27-2011, 02:45 AM

That's an odd one. The part number 250-60HNN I can see on the PCB means it was probably designed for 250W, but there's no FSP of that model; instead there's a 250-60HHN (http://www.fsp-group.com.tw/english/...=176&proid=658), which is supposed to have a bottom-mounted 12cm fan. Perhaps a special part# for OEM, or maybe even a clone of the FSP?

The ratings are strange too since they match up with none of the FSP models and the 12V rails are far out of balance (one at 8A, one at 14?) A little surprising and disappointing to see a big manufacturer like Gigabyte overrating its PSUs.

**Agent24** · 01-27-2011, 02:56 AM

I'm not surprised, Gigabyte are the masters of marketing hype (Or so someone told me once)

**c_hegge** · 02-25-2011, 09:37 PM

TT ATX-400, Burned input filtering and busted caps on the secondary. All the caps are YC/Yang Chun brand.

**momaka** · 02-25-2011, 10:27 PM

Looks like one of the "safety" Y caps shorted. Proper Y caps are supposed to go open when they fail. Or perhaps the coil arced over.
Yet another low end Solytech.

**kaboom** · 02-25-2011, 11:30 PM

Thermistor blew out, and filter choke burned up, 'cause switchers and/or primary rectifiers shorted. If you could believe its rating, the fuse is probably 8A. Mmmm... chip of the year.

Looks like that 'steel' was excess left over from the cheep 'n nasty scrapheaps disguised as cases. Gotta love the caps... Look! They used a TO-220 case rectifer for the 12v supply instead of two 3A FR diodes soldered to one of those stupid brackets...

Hipot the bastard and make the world a better place

-Paul

**c_hegge** · 03-01-2011, 06:42 PM

Gotta laugh at the label on this.
"High Grade Ower Upply"

No input filtering, Secondary caps are all Fuhjyyu and, surprise surprise, one Chemi-Con, No PI Filter coils

Other interesting thing is that there is no indication of where it was made. I'm assuming in China by HongKongFlyApart Company ®, LLC or in Taiwan by TaiwanBreakDownComponents Company ®

**Scenic** · 03-01-2011, 08:53 PM

JDDA? wannabe ADDA?

**c_hegge** · 03-01-2011, 09:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scenic

JDDA? wannabe ADDA?

That's what I was thinking

**momaka** · 03-01-2011, 09:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by c_hegge

"High Grade Ower Upply"

Hey, it must be high grade - it's got a single United Chemicon capacitor. Makes up for all the other missing parts, doesn't it?

At least it's somewhat honestly rated at 180W, though. Powmax would label this 880W.

**Scenic** · 03-03-2011, 10:46 AM

L@hoo(.de) noname POS. came out of an Athlon64 3700+ (Socket 939) system..
i didn't even bother testing it.. opened it up and..well.. good thing i never tried to turn the system on with it

lahoo.de actually redirects to some kinda unknown company/shop named ONE.
the wiring on this is really pathetic.. 20AWG, with some 22AWG (!) thrown in the mix.. omg..
caps are all Canicon and SC/CS (the saturn logo) + 2 brown Su'scon on the secondary (which are actually the only non-bulging ones

)

**ratdude747** · 03-03-2011, 01:59 PM

you mean YC for the saturn logo? thats them.

**Agent24** · 03-03-2011, 03:19 PM

At least it has an input filter???

Why bother, with capacitors like that...

Actually it looks like one of the less-crap Hyenas. The square grille gives it away.

b700029 · 03-03-2011, 04:41 PM

LC-xxx model number, "2003" or "2002" PWM chip, phenolic board... it's another rebrand of the infamous L&C.

Schematic ("200W" but they probably just reuse the same one for the "300" and "350"):
http://www.apaczai.elte.hu/~04ahgy/P...0_atx_2003.gif
(I'd trust this schematic the same as I'd trust that PSU, since they seem to have drawn it with the 5 and 3.3v connected together

)

**Agent24** · 03-03-2011, 04:57 PM

That makes sense, L&C, Hyena, Deer, Allied, Apex and Solytech (and others, including this one I guess) are all the same thing.

Thanks for the schematic!

**c_hegge** · 04-22-2011, 05:49 AM

Sorry, I just can't let a good thread like this die. I got my hands on another Sky 550W-P4 unit, and, as well as load testing it, I put it on the oscilloscope. It failed after about 10 seconds at 250W load (no explosions this time though. I don't know what went wrong, but I don't care either), and at 200W, the ripple was out of spec on the 5 and 3.3v rails.

**Agent24** · 04-22-2011, 06:40 AM

Was that with dead capacitors or brand new?

01-26-2011, 04:44 AM	#121
c_hegge Badcaps Veteran Join Date: Sep 2009 City & State: North Coast, NSW My Country: Australia Line Voltage: 240V 50Hz I'm a: Professional Tech Posts: 5,051	Re: the gutless, bloated, and fried power supply hall of shame It was, but it's dead now. __________________ I love putting bad caps and flat batteries in fire and watching them explode!! No wonder it doesn't work! You installed the jumper wires backwards Main PC: Core i7 3770K 3.5GHz, Gigabyte GA-Z77M-D3H-MVP, 8GB Kingston HyperX DDR3 1600, 240GB Intel 335 Series SSD, 750GB WD HDD, Sony Optiarc DVD RW, Palit nVidia GTX660 Ti, CoolerMaster N200 Case, Delta DPS-600MB 600W PSU, Hauppauge TV Tuner, Windows 7 Home Premium Office PC: HP ProLiant ML150 G3, 2x Xeon E5335 2GHz, 4GB DDR2 RAM, 120GB Intel 530 SSD, 2x 250GB HDD, 2x 450GB 15K SAS HDD in RAID 1, 1x 2TB HDD, nVidia 8400GS, Delta DPS-650BB 650W PSU, Windows 7 Pro

01-26-2011, 07:07 AM	#122
370forlife Large Marge Join Date: Aug 2008 City & State: Kalamazoo, MI My Country: United States Line Voltage: 0-120VAC 60Hz I'm a: Hobbyist Tech Posts: 2,928	Re: the gutless, bloated, and fried power supply hall of shame Somewhat modern design. Two transistor forward, but no PFC. __________________

01-26-2011, 05:01 PM	#123
c_hegge Badcaps Veteran Join Date: Sep 2009 City & State: North Coast, NSW My Country: Australia Line Voltage: 240V 50Hz I'm a: Professional Tech Posts: 5,051	Re: the gutless, bloated, and fried power supply hall of shame It may be modern, but it's still a gutless wonder. I expect better for $55.

01-26-2011, 07:55 PM	#124
Agent24 I see dead caps Join Date: Oct 2007 City & State: Hiding inside a plated-through hole My Country: New Zealand Line Voltage: 230VAC 50Hz I'm a: Hobbyist Tech Posts: 4,700	Re: the gutless, bloated, and fried power supply hall of shame $55 for THAT? I guess it's because it's got Gigabyte all over it.. what a ripoff.

01-27-2011, 02:45 AM	#125
Badcappy Banned Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 45	Re: the gutless, bloated, and fried power supply hall of shame That's an odd one. The part number 250-60HNN I can see on the PCB means it was probably designed for 250W, but there's no FSP of that model; instead there's a 250-60HHN (http://www.fsp-group.com.tw/english/...=176&proid=658), which is supposed to have a bottom-mounted 12cm fan. Perhaps a special part# for OEM, or maybe even a clone of the FSP? The ratings are strange too since they match up with none of the FSP models and the 12V rails are far out of balance (one at 8A, one at 14?) A little surprising and disappointing to see a big manufacturer like Gigabyte overrating its PSUs.

01-27-2011, 02:56 AM	#126
Agent24 I see dead caps Join Date: Oct 2007 City & State: Hiding inside a plated-through hole My Country: New Zealand Line Voltage: 230VAC 50Hz I'm a: Hobbyist Tech Posts: 4,700	Re: the gutless, bloated, and fried power supply hall of shame I'm not surprised, Gigabyte are the masters of marketing hype (Or so someone told me once)

02-25-2011, 10:27 PM	#128
momaka master hoarder Join Date: May 2008 City & State: VA (NoVA) My Country: U.S.A. Line Voltage: 120 VAC, 60 Hz I'm a: Hobbyist Tech Posts: 11,249	Re: the gutless, bloated, and fried power supply hall of shame Looks like one of the "safety" Y caps shorted. Proper Y caps are supposed to go open when they fail. Or perhaps the coil arced over. Yet another low end Solytech.

03-01-2011, 08:53 PM	#131
Scenic o.O Join Date: Sep 2007 City & State: Duisburg My Country: Germany Line Voltage: 230VAC 50Hz I'm a: Hobbyist Tech Posts: 2,619	Re: the gutless, bloated, and fried power supply hall of shame JDDA? wannabe ADDA? __________________

03-03-2011, 10:46 AM	#134
Scenic o.O Join Date: Sep 2007 City & State: Duisburg My Country: Germany Line Voltage: 230VAC 50Hz I'm a: Hobbyist Tech Posts: 2,619	Re: the gutless, bloated, and fried power supply hall of shame L@hoo(.de) noname POS. came out of an Athlon64 3700+ (Socket 939) system.. i didn't even bother testing it.. opened it up and..well.. good thing i never tried to turn the system on with it lahoo.de actually redirects to some kinda unknown company/shop named ONE. the wiring on this is really pathetic.. 20AWG, with some 22AWG (!) thrown in the mix.. omg.. caps are all Canicon and SC/CS (the saturn logo) + 2 brown Su'scon on the secondary (which are actually the only non-bulging ones )

03-03-2011, 01:59 PM	#135
ratdude747 Black Sheep Join Date: Nov 2008 City & State: Madison, IN My Country: USA Line Voltage: 120VAC 60Hz I'm a: Professional Tech Posts: 16,693	Re: the gutless, bloated, and fried power supply hall of shame you mean YC for the saturn logo? thats them. __________________ (Insert witty quote here)

03-03-2011, 03:19 PM	#136
Agent24 I see dead caps Join Date: Oct 2007 City & State: Hiding inside a plated-through hole My Country: New Zealand Line Voltage: 230VAC 50Hz I'm a: Hobbyist Tech Posts: 4,700	Re: the gutless, bloated, and fried power supply hall of shame At least it has an input filter??? Why bother, with capacitors like that... Actually it looks like one of the less-crap Hyenas. The square grille gives it away.

03-03-2011, 04:41 PM	#137
b700029 Banned Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 637	Re: the gutless, bloated, and fried power supply hall of shame LC-xxx model number, "2003" or "2002" PWM chip, phenolic board... it's another rebrand of the infamous L&C. Schematic ("200W" but they probably just reuse the same one for the "300" and "350"): http://www.apaczai.elte.hu/~04ahgy/P...0_atx_2003.gif (I'd trust this schematic the same as I'd trust that PSU, since they seem to have drawn it with the 5 and 3.3v connected together ) Last edited by b700029; 03-03-2011 at 04:50 PM..

03-03-2011, 04:57 PM	#138
Agent24 I see dead caps Join Date: Oct 2007 City & State: Hiding inside a plated-through hole My Country: New Zealand Line Voltage: 230VAC 50Hz I'm a: Hobbyist Tech Posts: 4,700	Re: the gutless, bloated, and fried power supply hall of shame That makes sense, L&C, Hyena, Deer, Allied, Apex and Solytech (and others, including this one I guess) are all the same thing. Thanks for the schematic!

04-22-2011, 06:40 AM	#140
Agent24 I see dead caps Join Date: Oct 2007 City & State: Hiding inside a plated-through hole My Country: New Zealand Line Voltage: 230VAC 50Hz I'm a: Hobbyist Tech Posts: 4,700	Re: the gutless, bloated, and fried power supply hall of shame Was that with dead capacitors or brand new?