Windows XP End of Life Approaching

[momaka]

Re: Windows XP End of Life Approaching

Nothing works with IE6 anymore for me. Google is all it takes to make it crash.

Badcaps.net has always worked gread with IE6. I can open many many windows and still be using.. oh... about 200 MB of RAM (unless someone has uploaded gigantic inline images over 5 MP).
... which is one of the many reasons I like this forum so much: it doesn't matter what hardware and software you have... almost anything that can connect to the internet will work with BCN.

YouTube semi-works with IE6. Plays video fine, but searching, posting, viewing related videos, and displaying comments do not work at all - but I don't care about these most of the time anyways. Once I find the video I want to watch in FF or Opera, I then pop a IE6 window and play it there. Reason being is that IE6 is very efficient with the memory. Useful when using my slightly more ancient computers.

Yahoo! mail works great, but only sometimes. Sometimes it won't load at all ("Page cannot be displayed" errors) and sometimes I get other useless warning messages that tend to annoy me. When it works, though, it's great - I get a HTML version of Yahoo that rusn lightning fast.

Unless there is sadomasochism involved I'd max it up of RAM before the hard drive melts from the trashing.

HDD doesn't trash unless I land myself in a thread with 10+ inline images that are over 2xxx by 2xxx resolution. Viewing BCN and listening to music through YouTube, I'm usually right near the max at about 300-350 MB of RAM used.

And no, I can't max it out. Don't know what HP did in their infinite wisdom, but if I do max out the RAM to (a whopping) 512 MB, then I must loose ACPI capability .

[kc8adu]

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no flash crap to muck things up.i suspect flash/java is the cause of most old browser problems.

Badcaps.net has always worked gread with IE6. I can open many many windows and still be using.. oh... about 200 MB of RAM (unless someone has uploaded gigantic inline images over 5 MP).
... which is one of the many reasons I like this forum so much: it doesn't matter what hardware and software you have... almost anything that can connect to the internet will work with BCN.

YouTube semi-works with IE6. Plays video fine, but searching, posting, viewing related videos, and displaying comments do not work at all - but I don't care about these most of the time anyways. Once I find the video I want to watch in FF or Opera, I then pop a IE6 window and play it there. Reason being is that IE6 is very efficient with the memory. Useful when using my slightly more ancient computers.

Yahoo! mail works great, but only sometimes. Sometimes it won't load at all ("Page cannot be displayed" errors) and sometimes I get other useless warning messages that tend to annoy me. When it works, though, it's great - I get a HTML version of Yahoo that rusn lightning fast.



HDD doesn't trash unless I land myself in a thread with 10+ inline images that are over 2xxx by 2xxx resolution. Viewing BCN and listening to music through YouTube, I'm usually right near the max at about 300-350 MB of RAM used.

And no, I can't max it out. Don't know what HP did in their infinite wisdom, but if I do max out the RAM to (a whopping) 512 MB, then I must loose ACPI capability .

[japlytic]

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One other thing I recently discovered is the issue of arcade machines running XP which have a network connection.

[RJARRRPCGP]

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There is a huge quantity of hypocrisy behind that group which called as big motion picture companies and big record companies.
They are tremendously greedy for money, they get the second place after the bankers.

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I fixed that for you.

[c_hegge]

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YouTube semi-works with IE6. Plays video fine, but searching, posting, viewing related videos, and displaying comments do not work at all - but I don't care about these most of the time anyways. Once I find the video I want to watch in FF or Opera, I then pop a IE6 window and play it there. Reason being is that IE6 is very efficient with the memory. Useful when using my slightly more ancient computers.

Yahoo! mail works great, but only sometimes. Sometimes it won't load at all ("Page cannot be displayed" errors) and sometimes I get other useless warning messages that tend to annoy me. When it works, though, it's great - I get a HTML version of Yahoo that runs lightning fast.

That's unacceptable for me. A browser must be able to display everything on the web every time I ask for it, otherwise, I won't even consider it.

[momaka]

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no flash crap to muck things up.i suspect flash/java is the cause of most old browser problems.

Pretty much.

That's unacceptable for me. A browser must be able to display everything on the web every time I ask for it, otherwise, I won't even consider it.

Good luck finding that browser. They all have issues with one thing or another. I keep a selection of everything now, just in case .

[c_hegge]

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^
Firefox. The latest versions always work perfectly every time for me.

[goontron]

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looks like there will still be virus definition updates until 2015
http://www.betaarchive.com/forum/vie...p?f=61&t=30370

[Topcat]

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I extended the lifespan of XP on my office machine by tossing Server 2003 R2 on it......supported till July 2015....made good use of some free VLK's.

[goontron]

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I extended the lifespan of XP on my office machine by tossing Server 2003 R2 on it......supported till July 2015....made good use of some free VLK's.

good idea, whats the difference besides XP has a 10 user limit.

[ratdude747]

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good idea, whats the difference besides XP has a 10 user limit.

Some 2003 x32 versions allow 8GB of RAM...

[goontron]

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Some 2003 x32 versions allow 8GB of RAM...

oh ok. wait! M$ limits the amount of ram you can have?!?

[Topcat]

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Some 2003 x32 versions allow 8GB of RAM...

tangent
I tried server 2008 on my x5dal xeon system today (doesn't support 64). It has 4GB of ram in it, S2K8 sees it all, whereas XP only saw 3....
/tangent

[Topcat]

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good idea, whats the difference besides XP has a 10 user limit.

Basically nothing. Same code base, it just of course has server applications on it, such as IIS, domain controlling/AD, etc..... It is very tweakable for a desktop....also if you're experimenting with web design, its nice having IIS/web server @ localhost!!

[ratdude747]

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tangent
I tried server 2008 on my x5dal xeon system today (doesn't support 64). It has 4GB of ram in it, S2K8 sees it all, whereas XP only saw 3....
/tangent

tangent

you stilll run one of those too?

mine has 8gb /trumped /tangent

[Topcat]

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tangent

you stilll run one of those too?

mine has 8gb /trumped /tangent

resume tangent
Yea, I have one left, I use it for experiments, just like this. I have another 4gb of ram, thanks for the idea!!
/resuming tangent

[TELVM]

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oh ok. wait! M$ limits the amount of ram you can have?!?

From XP SP2 onwards (XP SP1 was not limited) all 32bit client Windows are artificially capped to ~3.25GB max usable RAM, 'courtesy' of some code in the kernel ntkrlnpa.exe .

Interesting reading on the subject

... And no, I can't max it out. Don't know what HP did in their infinite wisdom, but if I do max out the RAM to (a whopping) 512 MB, then I must loose ACPI capability .

That's a pity, I'd suggest swapping hardware to something that allows at least 1GB of RAM. Then create a small ramdisk (125~250MB) and install portable Firefox/PaleMoon entirely in the ramdisk. This provides a lightning quick browsing experience (RAM is an order of magnitude faster than any SSD/HDD drive).

[ratdude747]

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resume tangent
Yea, I have one left, I use it for experiments, just like this. I have another 4gb of ram, thanks for the idea!!
/resuming tangent

epic tangent assiest

Yeah, I wanted the W7 style aero, but w7 has the limit for x32 too... I PAE RAMdisked (via the gavotte tool and a registry mod) it to access the upper 4.8GB. I'll say, for x32, it kicks ass (but I maxed it out in nearly every way possible). Even with a newer system in use, I still run it for odd stuff and a spare.

/epic tangent assist

[TELVM]

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... but w7 has the limit for x32 too..

[domas]

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are those hacked somehow?