Windows XP End of Life Approaching

[Majestyk]

Re: Windows XP End of Life Approaching

I skipped ME and Vista and will skip Windows 8 - you shouldn´t buy operating systems that are merely a service pack for a previous os or that do not meet your needs.

Windows XP however was around for a VERY long time so I´ll keep at least one machine running it for the forseeable future. I will continue to use this machine for running software, that doesn´t support Win7 and that I´m not willing to buy once more.
For surfing the net XP isn´t the first choice anymore because of growing security issues but you can use a Win7 or Linux machine for that.
For more than a decade I run all my systems as dual-boot with Debian being the second os.

As for XP, I think most of us will never forget it.

[domas]

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Just pointless emotional post without any practical information:

When i got my first computer in year 2001 iirc, everybody was like no not the XP! You will not be able to play games on that system. winme/98/2000 FTW they said. Still installed the XP from day 1. Never regretted that. I remember I had 98/me few times as a second operating system for playing gta III as there were few problems on xp before some KB fix was released, tried fedora linux as second os, tried longhorn in I sometime about ~2005 but it was very crappy as you could expect. XP was always my main system on the stationary pc until 2008. In 2008 I moved out of my parents I got an inspiron 6400, with xp on it, vista was available my then, but I was like hell no.

I have switched to 7 in summer 2011 as I got a new laptop Dell XPS 17, with w7 HP on it, still running strong, just updated to w7 ultimate in start of this year as I got it nearly for free.

The stationary computer is still running at my parents’ house, it’s a 1.6GHz P4, optical drives changed 3-4 times I guess due to upgrade to DVD and failures, HDD’s upgraded due to limitations in size. Started of single 40GB hdd, now running 40+200GB. Started of 256MB ram, now running 256+512MB. Power supply changed twice. Now the fun part: MB, processor, and VGA (nVidia GeForce2 MX 440 (AGP 8x, 64MB)) never changed, neither thermal paste was re-applied. Fan on VGA was screaming from 1-2 years after computer was acquired. Still screaming. Re-oiling didn’t help for long. What did I understand about those things by then anyway. I am normally not nostalgic about things, but this

And my first laptop is still running on xp + I have installed Ubuntu yesterday as second OS.

[Kiriakos GR]

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For surfing the net XP isn´t the first choice anymore because of growing security issues but you can use a Win7 or Linux machine for that.

The biggest enemy of XP is Microsoft, and do not worry they are aware of all your whereabouts all ready.

Even hackers have pride, in order to demonstrate their skills they play with the latest stuff than with a 1200cc FIAT LOL

[Topcat]

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I tried updating 3 of my XP64 machines, something is amuck with windows update....little green indicator bar jerks off indefinitely.....been like this for 3 days.

[ivtec]

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I will never buy anything from Microsoft anymore as long Linux supports us.

[Topcat]

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I will never buy anything from Microsoft anymore as long Linux supports us.

If I didn't have real work to do with my computers, I'd run linux too....

[goontron]

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If I didn't have real work to do with my computers, I'd run linux too....

hmmm "real" work what do you mean by that?

[Topcat]

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hmmm "real" work what do you mean by that?

things I don't have time to experiment with.... I also dont have time to play where waldo with drivers and support....especially with printers. Windows works, is well supported, and shazam! I use MS Office all the time....open office blows chunks.

On that note, linux is wonderful for servers, and it definitely has its place. Its just very impractical for a desktop if you do anymore than web browse or email.

[goontron]

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things I don't have time to experiment with.... I also dont have time to play where waldo with drivers and support....especially with printers. Windows works, is well supported, and shazam! I use MS Office all the time....open office blows chunks.

On that note, linux is wonderful for servers, and it definitely has its place. Its just very impractical for a desktop if you do anymore than web browse or email.

umm CUPS has more print drivers than 7 or any of the win OS'es!
and yes OOo sucks! but thats where libeoffice actuals works!

[Topcat]

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umm CUPS has more print drivers than 7 or any of the win OS'es!
and yes OOo sucks! but thats where libeoffice actuals works!

Funny I never could get it to work with my Samsung CLP-315 over a LAN....tried miltiple times... Ohh well, the offices are very happy with windows!

[ratdude747]

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umm CUPS has more print drivers than 7 or any of the win OS'es!
and yes OOo sucks! but thats where libeoffice actuals works!

Agreed. OO is for morons. Libreoffice is the way to go (a fork of OO, for those unaware).

[SeanB]

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XP in a virtualbox, works fine for me and does almost anything aside from games. Libreoffice does work well enough. Funny thing is printers work better under Linux, only thing that does not is the cheap junk that is either an idiot MFD device or those crippled ones that use the host computer to do the rasterising while there is a perfectly adequate processor in the device anyway.

Next time I get a Win7 key I will install that in a VM as well. Just installed Win8 today on sisters computer, after 2 hours of update it works well enough though I am starting to learn how to use it a little better. Like XP it is just a learning curve and a change of how things were, much like going from RH to Debian was for me.

[Kiriakos GR]

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Agreed. OO is for morons.

Hey I am one of them ...

Some years back when I was fighting with my self if I am going to get the red pill and buy the MS office small business, I did try hard to adjust using the Ooo.

The problem was that you do have to face compatibility issues with older documents made by MS word, and the most devastating is the lack of Full version outlook which I was need so to synchronize mobile phone contacts, and also my PDA with win mobile on it.

Generally speaking, if you haven't be contaminated with portable devices that using the Microsoft code, you might be happy with the Ooo.

But from the other hand any data logging software from respectable vendors, come with scrips that extend it capabilities by cooperating with MS Office.

The sum of the above thoughts makes you to get finally the red pill and move on.

[ivtec]

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1) Just type in those licenses ... I am fully responsible if my code mess up your PC .. your Name & telephone.

2) No its not about profit, its about dominance.
In this war the end user is not important, but every one who messing up with the operating system with tweaks that gets deep in the true windows user spying engine he must be stopped.
Their ways looks as to be a criminal organization.

3) Before six years one fresh Microsoft engineer who was trying hard to understand the windows engine, so to prove him self as worthy to his new job and supervisors.
He discovered seven layers in the operating system and so complicated that he would unable to fully understand.
By the years if you add on top of those layers another three that is the additional of framework 1 + 2, 3, 4, the monster have now 11 layers, and it is impossible for a single human brain to get a hand on it.

In the lever of drivers I am not a specialist, but at list Microsoft left the door open for unsigned drivers to be installed.
Their fortress was not in danger from one unsigned driver.

The best customers of Microsoft are governments, army & business.
The complexity in the operating system was added intentionally so the common Joe to not be able to play with it.

But from the other hand I do understand that playing with a single unlocked kernel it is something that the simple Joe can do if he have some skills in writing and debugging code.

My skills in the windows software are limited in to edit manually the registry so to overcome common problems, I am not a software guru.

So you mean people pay lots of money for win software to be spied on?

[TELVM]

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I tried updating 3 of my XP64 machines, something is amuck with windows update....little green indicator bar jerks off indefinitely.....been like this for 3 days.

They're self-torpedoing XP in a pathetic attempt to shepherd the pack into the Tiles 8 joke.

This works for me: Disable Windows XP update, download and install IE8, reboot, enable update.

(It goes without saying that we never touch IE8 again).

[ratdude747]

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Hey I am one of them ...

Some years back when I was fighting with my self if I am going to get the red pill and buy the MS office small business, I did try hard to adjust using the Ooo.

The problem was that you do have to face compatibility issues with older documents made by MS word, and the most devastating is the lack of Full version outlook which I was need so to synchronize mobile phone contacts, and also my PDA with win mobile on it.

Generally speaking, if you haven't be contaminated with portable devices that using the Microsoft code, you might be happy with the Ooo.

But from the other hand any data logging software from respectable vendors, come with scrips that extend it capabilities by cooperating with MS Office.

The sum of the above thoughts makes you to get finally the red pill and move on.

I meant using OO as opposed to Libreoffice. Before libre was forked (due to Oracle's buyout of Sun), OO was the way to go... I used it. But since the fork, OO isn't a good choice, Libre being the real successor (all/most of the devs moved to it).

[Kiriakos GR]

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So you mean people pay lots of money for win software to be spied on?

The 90% of the smart virus is one tiny script that uses the Windows engine to do the job.
Microsoft build this thing, and yes they can do what ever please them.


10 years back I become an eye witness of a crazy story.
I was called so to repair a computer ( Win XP ) in a local business, the problem was a bad hard drive, and I had to reinstall everything.
By activating the new Installation, in 5 minutes Microsoft Hellas made a telephone at that shop so to ask if we need any help? And also what was the problem?

The answer in your question .... they can monitor anything interesting if they like so.

[Kiriakos GR]

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I meant using OO as opposed to Libreoffice.

No offense is taken.. I just grab the opportunity to share some extra thoughts of my.

[RJARRRPCGP]

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Use nLite and integrate all updates with a package from ryanvm.net.

That will also fix Windows Update on XP.

Use 5eraph's update pack for XP x64.

[ncovert]

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I love Windows XP. Even though it will be discontinued in a few months, I will still be using it after the expiry date. Unfortunately, I won't be able to reinstall it because of that activation system.