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Old 07-19-2018, 07:54 AM   #1
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Default Long range free wifi

I figure I live a mile or two from any free wifi . I see these hi gain antennas . Yagi , parabolic , I just wounder if any one else is getting this kind of range out of these antennas or if they will work over that diatance .
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Old 07-19-2018, 09:52 AM   #2
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parabolic will for sure, i'v seen a guy in india do 40miles with one!!!

you need the right kit with it though, something like a tplink 5110.
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I have some old sat. antennas . I have a plan in my head of a bracket and clamp where the lnb mounted . There are a few buildings between and any free wifi so I dont know if this will work and i did not want to put a lot of money in to this .
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parabolic will for sure, i'v seen a guy in india do 40miles with one!!!

you need the right kit with it though, something like a tplink 5110.
Are you talking about TL-WA5110G? No doubt it is designed for High Power to boost signal coverage but I think its range is only 31 miles.
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Old 07-19-2018, 04:48 PM   #5
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dish must be solid, not mesh btw because of the difference in intended frequency's
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Old 07-19-2018, 05:51 PM   #6
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dish must be solid, not mesh btw because of the difference in intended frequency's
i have a mesh dish here ..dogs bollocks apparently .. not set it up yet . cant ever find the time for it . internet is cheap enough these days . cant complain with speeds and data for mobile connection . only line of sight from here with fast connection not happening .. both very slow ...
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dish must be solid, not mesh btw because of the difference in intended frequency's
Mesh very much works.
http://www.data-alliance.net/antenna...ifi-high-gain/

So do even cheap yagi's like these.
http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from...5&LH_PrefLoc=1

Add this.
http://www.data-alliance.net/bullet-...5ghz-ubiquiti/

Then some proper wires minding line loss and make it line of sight via antenna mast or roof. 1-2 miles is dependable and even more if both sides are playing together. You could recycled a dish and play cheaper making a bi quad feed and a alfa or even a yagi but a little more restricted on placement.

Retiredcaps has a point but I'll add everything can be hacked.
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Old 07-19-2018, 06:02 PM   #8
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I figure I live a mile or two from any free wifi .
A number of suggestions.

1. Be wary of free wifi from anyone due to security concerns, man in the middle attacks, traffic snooping, etc.

2. Be sure it is free before spending any money. Drive up to the spots and see if free wifi is rate limited.

3. What is free can easily be gone or not free the very next day.

4. If your wifi client (PC, phone, etc) isn't up to date with the latest security patches, you may be hacked.
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I use the free wifi to down load torrent files , securty is not that big of a deal . I get 10 gigs from cricket with my phone . On the antenna, copanies like dish and direct install new dishes and just leave old ones so there a lot of old antennas around . There solid a foot to a foot and a half round and oval . I can use a L shaped bracket where the lnb would go then use a clamp to hold the end of the coax with a wire in the focal point of the antenna . The coax is rated for the higher freq.
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Old 07-20-2018, 05:40 AM   #10
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use a specific dns and DONT use auto if on free wifi.
infact use a specific one anyway - a lot of isp's fuck around with filters and stuff.

that dish you linked was intended for 2.4GHz, small sat dishes are optimised for around 1800-2GHz if i remember the KU band right.

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Old 07-20-2018, 07:31 AM   #11
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The sat. antennas are used around 12 ghz . , but I dont think that stops them from working as 2.4 ghz .
https://www.lyngsat.com/EchoStar-14.html
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ku_band
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The sat. antennas are used around 12 ghz . , but I dont think that stops them from working as 2.4 ghz .
https://www.lyngsat.com/EchoStar-14.html
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ku_band
That is correct. There is a Ham Radio magazine called QST and there was a write up on using an old small DTV dish on long range WiFi, but I can't remember the issue anymore.
Here is a high gain 2400Mhz home built one from QEX.
http://www.arrl.org/files/file/QEX_N...11_PASKVAN.pdf
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use a specific dns and DONT use auto if on free wifi.
infact use a specific one anyway - a lot of isp's fuck around with filters and stuff.

that dish you linked was intended for 2.4GHz, small sat dishes are optimised for around 1800-2GHz if i remember the KU band right.
Of course it's intended for it that is what those are made for. I thought that is what you were saying doesn't work though. Never seen a mesh tv dish around here. Have converted and seen others use tv dishes though.
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I figure I live a mile or two from any free wifi . I see these hi gain antennas . Yagi , parabolic , I just wounder if any one else is getting this kind of range out of these antennas or if they will work over that diatance .
Is your emphasis on "free"? ... or "WiFi" (network access)?
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I am trying for the the few places that offer free high speed net , and dont block torrent files .
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I am trying for the the few places that offer free high speed net , and dont block torrent files .
You've not answered the question. Is "no cost" more important to you than "internet access"?

Note that "no cost" -- especially if you're effectively "stealing" the service -- can go away at any time. Turn down the XMIT power on the AP and suddenly you need another 6dB in your antenna, etc.

If you're willing to PAY for access, I'm sure you can find someone (Hughes, BlueSky, and, no doubt, other "semi local" wireless providers)

[It's 2+ miles as the crow flies to my ISP's transmitter and my monthly payment ensures I have service when I want it!]
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Ok , I am not a hacker , I have no interest in hacking any encripted wifi . I can pick up 7 of my neghbors wifi from my lap top modem with out any high gain antenna . I thought free wifi meant the same to ever one . If I walk in to a store and there is a sine saying you are welcome to use our FREE WIFI , that is not stealing if its inside there store , in the parking lot or at my home .
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Ok , I am not a hacker , I have no interest in hacking any encripted wifi . I can pick up 7 of my neghbors wifi from my lap top modem with out any high gain antenna . I thought free wifi meant the same to ever one . If I walk in to a store and there is a sine saying you are welcome to use our FREE WIFI , that is not stealing if its inside there store , in the parking lot or at my home .
You've missed the point.

These places set up "free WiFi" for THEIR CUSTOMERS... not some guy 2 miles away who wants a free ride!

TOMORROW, they can replace their AP, move their antenna, site a large metal appliance directly in your line-of-sight to their antenna, decide to turn the AP off after business hours, limit the number of connections to the few folks they normally expect to see on it, forcibly drop leases after 60 minutes, restrict certain types of traffic (e.g., torrents because someone from MPAA gave them a call/visit as the goons can see the IP you're using as you DL those torrents), etc.

THEIR CUSTOMERS (the intended beneficiaries of their FREE service) won't be impacted. You, OTOH, may well be. If you are so sure that they intend this service to be available to folks "in the parking lot or at my home", you'd have no problem ASKING them about it in those terms, right?

So, I repeat, going this route only makes sense if you're more interested in FREE than in ACCESS.
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I am trying for the the few places that offer free high speed net , and dont block torrent files .
Free, high speed and not configured properly so as to allow torrents.

That will be over there then, next to the field of unicorns.
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parabolic/cantenna dish wifi
https://youtu.be/jNPVC7gAook

WiFiUmbrella antenna
https://youtu.be/E1iv3OpeQ1g

The WiFi Umbrella Long Range Test
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