anatek blue esr not working correctly

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ok guys i got me one of these meters and put it all together and all i get is .00 and an f2 error when shut off the adjustable pots do absolutely nothing, no response when i short the leads and or use the calibration resistors no response at all whatsoever and i am stumped....makes me sick of 80 bucks out the door if i can't get this thing to work....

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Re: anatek blue esr not working correctly

and pic's not best camera so apologies in advance....

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pics taken with droid hopefully better for ya guys any imput any kind of suggestion would help i checked connections everything i can think of and still not working ugh!!!!!! it shows the horzontal line on left for a split second then goes to .00 then holding power button will give me the f2 error then it will auto shutoff, if i turn it back on same thing line split second then .00 and if i leave it alone it will shut off in 3 mins.....with no error but again pots do nothing and leads do nothing on a cap or resistor does nothing.....

[tom66]

Re: anatek blue esr not working correctly

Manual says:

The ESR Meter’s firmware allows the microcontroller to do some basic testing of the electronics to help you
narrow down a problem to one area of the board. Before doing the self-test, it’s very important to first set VR1
to the center of its adjustment range, short out R30, 100R and make sure that the meter’s supply voltage is
in the range of 6.2 – 6.8V. Do not use a 9V battery for this test because it will cause a false F2 warning!

or:

F2: C10 is charging too slowly (or not at all). Check around Q9, Q10 (2N3906), R22 (470kΩ), R19 & R20 (10kΩ)
and C10 (470nF).

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Re: anatek blue esr not working correctly

Manual says:


or:

ok i used a cell phone wall wart puts out exactly 6.2 volts shorted 100r and got exact same results as if the 100r was in place with 9 volt battery what gives? hhhhmmmmm


checking 2nd suggestion now

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ok i used a cell phone wall wart puts out exactly 6.2 volts shorted 100r and got exact same results as if the 100r was in place with 9 volt battery what gives? hhhhmmmmm


checking 2nd suggestion now

whats sucks is the board is not have any labels to what is c10 yada yada only lables it has is what goes there and there are several 2n3906 and none of them are marked q or anything LOL .......ok i found a possible maybe suspect a 220 ohm resistor is only reading on 200k setting reading 00.2 and all other resistors check ok i am suspicious of this one everything else far as i can tell is good to go...

[fpliuzzi]

Re: anatek blue esr not working correctly

Hello,
It is a little hard for me to see in the photo, but It appears that the two capacitors (small yellow one and a larger red mylar one), that are located close to the pair of rectifier diodes, look like they each have one lead that is not soldered. You may want to rotate the board 180 degrees and resolder some of the joints that look like they have gaps in their solder joints.

Also, check for any unintended solder bridges where the traces pass very close to each other. There may be a short somewhere.

You may want to check out the following troubleshooting info page for Bob Parker's original ESR meter...

http://members.ozemail.com.au/~bobpar/esrprob.htm

That page may have some useful tips to help guide you since the Blue ESR meter is somewhat similar to the original ESR meter. There is some good general info about what to be looking out for when a kit doesn't function after it is assembled.

Frank

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Re: anatek blue esr not working correctly

Hello,
It is a little hard for me to see in the photo, but It appears that the two capacitors (small yellow one and a larger red mylar one), that are located close to the pair of rectifier diodes, look like they each have one lead that is not soldered. You may want to rotate the board 180 degrees and resolder some of the joints that look like they have gaps in their solder joints.

Also, check for any unintended solder bridges where the traces pass very close to each other. There may be a short somewhere.

You may want to check out the following troubleshooting info page for Bob Parker's original ESR meter...

http://members.ozemail.com.au/~bobpar/esrprob.htm

That page may have some useful tips to help guide you since the Blue ESR meter is somewhat similar to the original ESR meter. There is some good general info about what to be looking out for when a kit doesn't function after it is assembled.

Frank

the soldier joints are fine however the 220k resistor was wrong i think and closest one i could find was 200k resister put that in and now i get fluctuations in meter tried to calibrate and its just wonky as heck as i use 82ohm resistor to calibrate it stays at 82 ohms and will not zero out after i disconnect resistor so ugh wth? i checked all nearby resistors and they are what their supposed to be and if i touch leads together it will zero out but soon as i disconnect it bounce back to .82!!!!!! this is a spooky fella and checked for shorts no shorts so something is amuck around that area i think

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checking everything over the troubleshooting is not much help atm it not detailed enough and it refers locations that are not marked so q and c10 etc there is none of that only marked values of whats supposed to be there which i have been checking i think for sure there was some errors in package will confirm after checking everything was hoping somebody could spot an error right away.... hope 80 buxs don't go in vain but still tripple and quad checking but really need this thing working asap.....but have a feeling mispackaged resistors see what i did was check them with dmm before i installed and ones i knew for sure where they go i put in and the ones that i was not sure of i put in last and closest values but i do remember there were at least 2 that were way way off and that 220k was one of them it actual reading was .002 which is way way way off i was hoping 200k would get me close enough to calibrate it in but its only got weirder soooooo.... i will keep verifying but its frustrating to the least...

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and thanks for all the suggestions i do appreciate them.....so if there is any more i will most certainly be open minded about it.... but anatek needs to keep tabs on who packages these things cause 80 buxs is nothing to sneeze at...and they most likely rarely have errors but of course my luck i end up with one that does LOL...not saying i could have messed up but only thing i could have messed up on is the resistors but everything else is pretty straight forward don't think i would make such a blatant goof..... and i did mess the pads up on the bipolar 22uf cap but was able to fix that and did a continuity test and does check ok...but if this worked right in first place i would not have to desoldier the cap to risk the pads lol oh well hey bob parker need ya here man !!!!!!!

[budm]

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You have this right with the BOM and the board layout?

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You have this right with the BOM and the board layout?

yeah i do and upon rechecking everything i found 2 errors i made and 2 errors they made LOL i had the 1k and 100k backwards and fixed that however they gave me 2 wrong parts supposed to be 1% 70k resistor and a 220k 5% resistor i will be getting a hold of anatek to get this corrected i tried to find suitable replacements laying around all i could find is 50k and 200k ugh not quite LOL..seems like its getting common with parts errors with anatek these days upon researching and its quite a pain when that happens.....thanks bud your quite helpfull with the tv sets been finding ya all over the net when i research tv repair...

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yeah i do and upon rechecking everything i found 2 errors i made and 2 errors they made LOL i had the 1k and 100k backwards and fixed that however they gave me 2 wrong parts supposed to be 1% 70k resistor and a 220k 5% resistor i will be getting a hold of anatek to get this corrected i tried to find suitable replacements laying around all i could find is 50k and 200k ugh not quite LOL..seems like its getting common with parts errors with anatek these days upon researching and its quite a pain when that happens.....thanks bud your quite helpfull with the tv sets been finding ya all over the net when i research tv repair...

also found more incorrect resistors wrong values no wonder this thing went awol
gonna tell them to send me whole resistor set this is ridiculous....to top it off this was back ordered when i ordered it and they like rushed this out with wrong resistors ugh.....i praised this meter to my boss upon all the research and this happens and it really messed with my head....hopefully this will be corrected and it will pay for itself and all the inconvenience will be made up when i start using this thing whenever i can get it to work correctly....anybody know a good full chart that i can get, that will show expected esr for cap values or the best formula to use to figure out esr values?

[Kiriakos GR]

Re: anatek blue esr not working correctly

Sorry for the intrusion but why in earth you do not sent back this kit, so to give the chance to the seller to resolve those issues by replacing this kit with a correct packaged one.
Or even better with a assembled one, so to compensate your lost time with it.

Do not stress further your self for the mistakes of other people.

[budm]

Re: anatek blue esr not working correctly

Hmm, I do not see 70K 1% Resistor in the BOM.

[rekluse]

Re: anatek blue esr not working correctly

I just took a look at the pictures of your blue esr meter.VR1 and VR2 appear to be swapped.I would also suggest that you closely check the color codes on your resistors.It is hard to tell from your pictures, but some of them don't look correct.

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yeah i realized the resistors are wrong that's why i had them send me new resistor kits and i will tripple check em before i put them in..as far as vr1 and vr2 i think they are the same if it still acts wonky i will try swapping those they look the same ...as for stressing out about this , yeah i could have sent the kit back but i rather enjoy figuring this out unless it burns me in thee end but hopefully the people at anatek send me the right stuff...stay tuned the parts should be in tomorrow and i will update results... hopefully can get this thing up and running and 80 bucks don't go poof otherwise i may raise holy hell lol...

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Re: anatek blue esr not working correctly

Sorry for the intrusion but why in earth you do not sent back this kit, so to give the chance to the seller to resolve those issues by replacing this kit with a correct packaged one.
Or even better with a assembled one, so to compensate your lost time with it.

Do not stress further your self for the mistakes of other people.

i came close to doing that but me being too nice i decided to let them try to make it right by sending me right parts and if they burn me twice then i will get short with them....

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Re: anatek blue esr not working correctly

Hmm, I do not see 70K 1% Resistor in the BOM.

please define i am lost at bom? and where do you not see it? sorry if it sounds dumb but honestly lost me and perhaps i am having a blond moment but could be kind to clarify thanks bud...

[rekluse]

Re: anatek blue esr not working correctly

VR1 is 10k ohms(labeled 103)
VR2 is 200 ohms(labeled 201)