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    Re: Original Xbox Replacement Caps

    ( One note no where in the majority of seller sites do they mention that they are nock offs ) you have to know this information

    My I phone is giving a headache not wanting to corporate today
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      Re: Original Xbox Replacement Caps

      Originally posted by jayjr1105 View Post
      My power supply is a foxlink, should I replace the 4-5 teapo's in it? I think they are mostly 2200uf 10v
      if it's like the european foxlink supplies then check the 1200uf caps.
      they always seem to be trashed.

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        Re: Original Xbox Replacement Caps

        Originally posted by stj View Post
        if it's like the european foxlink supplies then check the 1200uf caps.
        they always seem to be trashed.
        I took inventory of the caps on it and ordered everything, minus the Mains filter cap everything is getting replaced. My Ali poly's are taking forever to come in so the PSU is getting electrolytic's
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          Re: Original Xbox Replacement Caps

          Foxlink recap all done
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            Re: Original Xbox Replacement Caps

            Originally posted by stj View Post
            if it's like the european foxlink supplies then check the 1200uf caps.
            they always seem to be trashed.
            I got all my Ali caps in today. A little disappointed in the 1500uf 6.3 poly's. Using an LCR meter they all tested rather low but not out of spec. 2 of the 20 did test out of spec at 1000uf. The rest were 1300-1400uf. Not a single one at or above 1500uf. I find that odd.
            Anyway, here are the 3300uf Sanyo WG's. Probably fake, you tell me.
            https://imgur.com/gallery/y1vqqhO

            I did remove the label from one of the Sanyo's to find a vertical scratch, usually indicating a fake but it tested right at 3300uf with 0.01 ESR
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              Re: Original Xbox Replacement Caps

              I can't see those IMGUR external pictures. Can you please attach images using the forum's built-in feature? Online image hosting websites go up and down all the time, and I've seen it far too many times where after a while, a thread that is meant to have pictures has none.
              Last edited by momaka; 09-12-2020, 12:27 PM.

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                Re: Original Xbox Replacement Caps

                the images dont show the bung

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                  Re: Original Xbox Replacement Caps

                  Originally posted by stj View Post
                  the images dont show the bung
                  Here you go
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                    Re: Original Xbox Replacement Caps

                    Bonus pic, cut the naked one open with a razor blade. Wound very tight with many many layers. Had good moisture. If it's a fake it's not a bad one.
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                      Re: Original Xbox Replacement Caps

                      Nevermind about them being real. They are 100% fake. Further ESR testing shows them between .03 and 0.6 ESR (tested all of them) and the datasheet specifies .012 max at 100KHz 20c
                      Similar caps new and old test accurately around .02 to .01

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                        Re: Original Xbox Replacement Caps

                        Yea 100% fake, Sanyo / Suncon do not use bungs with concentric rings.
                        And only some larger caps have the X vent, 10mm caps have K type vents.
                        "The one who says it cannot be done should never interrupt the one who is doing it."

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                          Re: Original Xbox Replacement Caps

                          What's the story on these green KZE's? XBOX is a 1.0 and a very early if not first batch.
                          They look okay but wasn't sure if these were capacitor plague era or not.
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                            Re: Original Xbox Replacement Caps

                            Originally posted by jayjr1105 View Post
                            What's the story on these green KZE's?
                            KZE -> very very reliable
                            I would leave them.

                            Originally posted by Per Hansson View Post
                            Yea 100% fake, Sanyo / Suncon do not use bungs with concentric rings.
                            And only some larger caps have the X vent, 10mm caps have K type vents.
                            I still don't see half of the images from the offsite links, but the one that did load up eventually... yep 100% fake indeed.

                            jayjr1105, can you please attach images with the forum's built in attachment tool? (click "Post Reply" or "Go Advanced", then click on the "Manage Attachments" below the message prompt.) Someone's going to view this thread a few years from now, and I bet you most of the off-site images will be gone.
                            Last edited by momaka; 09-15-2020, 11:45 AM.

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                              Re: Original Xbox Replacement Caps

                              Originally posted by momaka View Post
                              KZE -> very very reliable
                              I would leave them.


                              I still don't see half of the images from the offsite links, but the one that did load up eventually... yep 100% fake indeed.

                              jayjr1105, can you please attach images with the forum's built in attachment tool? (click "Post Reply" or "Go Advanced", then click on the "Manage Attachments" below the message prompt.) Someone's going to view this thread a few years from now, and I bet you most of the off-site images will be gone.
                              Thanks, I did pull one of the KZE's yesterday and it tested out great, very low ESR and well within spec for capacitance.

                              I did post some images last week using my screenshot tool (lightshot) and I can confirm it doesn't play nice with hosting images for other websites. I have since started using imgur which should show all my images. Which ones can you not see?
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                                Re: Original Xbox Replacement Caps

                                What brand officially uses the concentric rings? Seems fairly common as a fake.

                                BTW I have a bunch of the fake WG Sanyos 2200uF 10V that look just like the 3300uF 6.3V units above, concentric rings and X and all. What really annoys me about fakes is that pretty much all leak at the rated voltage...
                                Last edited by eccerr0r; 09-17-2020, 11:49 AM.

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                                  Re: Original Xbox Replacement Caps

                                  Originally posted by eccerr0r View Post
                                  What brand officially uses the concentric rings? Seems fairly common as a fake.

                                  BTW I have a bunch of the fake WG Sanyos 2200uF 10V that look just like the 3300uF 6.3V units above, concentric rings and X and all. What really annoys me about fakes is that pretty much all leak at the rated voltage...
                                  Of the 10 I ordered, some actually had a totally different bung that was more traditionally shaped but still had a X vent instead of K. Also tested well above an very low esr for such a cap.

                                  Stock photo not my actual cap but the bungs on some looked like this https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon....1E3hWoeCmL.jpg
                                  Last edited by jayjr1105; 09-17-2020, 01:09 PM.
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                                    Re: Original Xbox Replacement Caps

                                    Originally posted by momaka View Post
                                    I still don't see half of the images from the offsite links, but the one that did load up eventually... yep 100% fake indeed.

                                    jayjr1105, can you please attach images with the forum's built in attachment tool? (click "Post Reply" or "Go Advanced", then click on the "Manage Attachments" below the message prompt.) Someone's going to view this thread a few years from now, and I bet you most of the off-site images will be gone.
                                    Agreed.
                                    But I did attach all pictures last weekend so you can see them all.
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                                      Re: Original Xbox Replacement Caps

                                      Originally posted by jayjr1105 View Post
                                      I did post some images last week using my screenshot tool (lightshot) and I can confirm it doesn't play nice with hosting images for other websites. I have since started using imgur which should show all my images. Which ones can you not see?
                                      The first one with the direct link and I think the one with the Foxlink PSU... and maybe a few others. It was a bit random.

                                      Just to make sure, I did try viewing this thread on different PCs and with different browsers, since I know my Opera 12 can act a bit iffy with newer sites and/or externally linked photos... but that wasn't the case this time. Whatever was going on cleared up after a few days and I was able to view the images before Per uploaded them to the forums.

                                      Originally posted by eccerr0r View Post
                                      What brand officially uses the concentric rings? Seems fairly common as a fake.
                                      Teapo... at least I've seen it on a number of small SC series (6.3V, 1000 uF) that came from HP OEM ASUS P4SD motherboards... but not all of them had the concentric rings, so who knows what Teapo did there.

                                      Originally posted by eccerr0r View Post
                                      What really annoys me about fakes is that pretty much all leak at the rated voltage...
                                      LOL!

                                      Originally posted by Per Hansson View Post
                                      Agreed.
                                      But I did attach all pictures last weekend so you can see them all.
                                      Thank you!
                                      I noticed the page also loaded much faster this time.

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                                        Re: Original Xbox Replacement Caps

                                        Originally posted by momaka View Post
                                        Thank you!
                                        I noticed the page also loaded much faster this time.
                                        The direct links to imgur are still there for the inline pictures.
                                        I always do it like that: just attach the linked picture without changing the link itself.
                                        (As long as it points to a https source and actually exists that is).
                                        "The one who says it cannot be done should never interrupt the one who is doing it."

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                                          Re: Original Xbox Replacement Caps

                                          Any harm in using fewer caps around the CPU? The XBOX either has five 1500uf caps or three 3300uf caps. Could you simply populate two 4700uf caps on the left and right most sides? You can get away with about 27mm (maybe 30) height and 12.5mm width. Just curious if it quantity matters vs sticking with same bulk capacitance and voltage.
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