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    HP ZBook 17 G3 Mobile Workstation LA-C391p won't turn on and the power light is blinking

    Hello
    I was looking for a schematic or board view but unfortunately I didn't find anything.
    By connecting the drain and source of pq58, the device turns on and works perfectly, but the battery doesn't charge, and I don't know the path of the circuit to the MOSFET.
    Is the problem with the adapter? Or is there a problem with the MOSFET activation circuit?
    Please guide me.
    Thank you.

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    Last edited by mon2; 12-12-2024, 10:17 AM.

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      #3
      Originally posted by my dodge View Post
      Hello
      I was looking for a schematic or board view but unfortunately I didn't find anything.
      By connecting the drain and source of pq58, the device turns on and works perfectly, but the battery doesn't charge, and I don't know the path of the circuit to the MOSFET.
      Is the problem with the adapter? Or is there a problem with the MOSFET activation circuit?
      Please guide me.
      Thank you.
      I reached the BQ24780s

      IC by following the path of the pq58 ( TPCA8057-H

      ) pins.

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        #4
        The above schematic is the same as for your board.

        Remove all power. Meter in resistance mode. Measure the resistance across the mosfet pins to check if they are leaking.

        source (1-2-3) & drain (5-6-7-8)
        source (1-2-3) & gate (4)
        gate (4) & drain (5-6-7-8)


        Each measurement must be hundreds of k ohms or higher. Otherwise the part may be leaking and needs to be replaced. If found, flux and remove the part and allow it to cool. Then measure in the same way while the part is on your work table. Suspecting that the 1st DCin mosfet is defective.

        Carefully, measure the following voltage to ground for the following pins of interest with the adapter:

        ACDET ; pin 6
        REGN ; pin 24
        VCC ; pin 28
        ACDRV ; pin 4

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          #5
          Originally posted by mon2 View Post
          The above schematic is the same as for your board.

          Remove all power. Meter in resistance mode. Measure the resistance across the mosfet pins to check if they are leaking.

          source (1-2-3) & drain (5-6-7-8)
          source (1-2-3) & gate (4)
          gate (4) & drain (5-6-7-8)


          Each measurement must be hundreds of k ohms or higher. Otherwise the part may be leaking and needs to be replaced. If found, flux and remove the part and allow it to cool. Then measure in the same way while the part is on your work table. Suspecting that the 1st DCin mosfet is defective.

          Carefully, measure the following voltage to ground for the following pins of interest with the adapter:

          ACDET ; pin 6
          REGN ; pin 24
          VCC ; pin 28
          ACDRV ; pin 4
          I have already removed the MOSFET from the board and checked it with a multimeter
          In diode mode with gate excitation, the source and drain values are the same in both prop positions and are about 0, and again with reverse gate excitation and the MOSFET is turned off, this value becomes a diode, which is o.l on one side and about 0.5 on the other

          But in ohm mode, the MOSFET between the drain and source shows about 3.9 M ohm on both sides, which is halved when the gate is excited and the MOSFET is turned on, so to speak, and becomes about 1.5 Mohms.

          The MOSFET appears to be healthy.

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            #6
            Review PQ56 - the 2nd dcin mosfet.

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              #7
              Originally posted by mon2 View Post
              The above schematic is the same as for your board.

              Remove all power. Meter in resistance mode. Measure the resistance across the mosfet pins to check if they are leaking.

              source (1-2-3) & drain (5-6-7-8)
              source (1-2-3) & gate (4)
              gate (4) & drain (5-6-7-8)


              Each measurement must be hundreds of k ohms or higher. Otherwise the part may be leaking and needs to be replaced. If found, flux and remove the part and allow it to cool. Then measure in the same way while the part is on your work table. Suspecting that the 1st DCin mosfet is defective.

              Carefully, measure the following voltage to ground for the following pins of interest with the adapter:

              ACDET ; pin 6
              REGN ; pin 24
              VCC ; pin 28
              ACDRV ; pin 4
              But on the board and of course without a MOSFET, in ohm mode, the value between the source and drain is the same on both sides, approximately 400 kilohms, and for the gate, only when the negative probe is connected to the gate, we have a value of about 5.6 megaohms with the drain and about 4.96 megaohms with the drain, and in the positive probe mode with the gate, o.l is shown.

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                #8
                Originally posted by mon2 View Post
                Review PQ56 - the 2nd dcin mosfet.
                Yes, definitely

                I will check the voltages and let you know

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                  #9
                  Test the removed mosfet in resistance mode for:

                  source / gate
                  gate / drain

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by mon2 View Post
                    Test the removed mosfet in resistance mode for:

                    source / gate
                    gate / drain
                    Surprisingly, in both modes, the probes only display O.L for both requested modes.

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                      #11
                      Is your meter an auto-ranging type or manual type for the resistance mode? If manual, select a higher scale till you have a measurement. In summary, we are confirming that each resistance check is hundreds of K ohms or more.

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by mon2 View Post
                        Is your meter an auto-ranging type or manual type for the resistance mode? If manual, select a higher scale till you have a measurement. In summary, we are confirming that each resistance check is hundreds of K ohms or more.
                        It is Auto Range and the result of this last test was very surprising to me.

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                          #13
                          There is the possibility that the mosfet is defective and therefore reporting the same 'OL' resistance. Test against another known good mosfet to compare.

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