42' plasma....tatung

[medamotcha]

my question is the number on the caps are different....is thair a convetion table .....cant order till i find out the right voltage and number....from jap to usa....how can i find out?or can i post and you will convert for me so i can order?......thx and i hope this is in the right place...if you move i hope i can find again....

[PlainBill]

Re: 42' plasma....tatung

my question is the number on the caps are different....is thair a convetion table .....cant order till i find out the right voltage and number....from jap to usa....how can i find out?or can i post and you will convert for me so i can order?......thx and i hope this is in the right place...if you move i hope i can find again....

First of all, STOP POUNDING YOUR HEAD ON THE TABLE!!! You're getting blood over everything!

The information that is important is capacity, voltage, manufacturer, series, height, diameter. Either give us all the information on the caps, or if you require help figuring out what is meaningful, attach pictures of one of the caps (good resolution so we can read everything) and we will help you out. It might take an hour or two to get a response; some of us have what resembles a life.

PlainBill

ps I'll bite. What is the 'World's most famous beach'?

pb

[medamotcha]

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ok thank you and i will do it asap....be back in a few days with pics....
oh ya ,the world most famouse beach ....(daytona bch florida)

[Toasty]

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WOW! That's a big TV. I guess the only place you could use it is on the beach...



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Sorry - this is NOT a hijack!

[PlainBill]

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WOW! That's a big TV. I guess the only place you could use it is on the beach...



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Sorry - this is NOT a hijack!

No, because it's a son of a beach to move around.

PlainBill

[Toasty]

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I guess I need to be more specific...

42' plasma....tatung

I like sunny beaches!

[medamotcha]

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this is the right side of the TV...and the type of board.....and here is the left side of the tv ...i got in thair pritty close..i tryed to do the best i could..


this is the left side ....all caps shown you are bad ...oil stuff all over the borad on are near the caps....now i dont know how to convert numbers to american.....so i can order parts for these....
53Y
220
61V

Z5145
22
35J

Z3029
22
35J

Z5113
22
35F

Z5110
22
35F...oh ya i need for this alsoi kinda messed this up....ummm does it look like it is fixed...i used so tinfoil and glued to the board...will this work when sodderd in?...please let me know...thx mang

[Wizard]

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Foil is aluminum and solder will not stick or wick to it.

What we do this kind of repair, usually we carefully scrape away the mask to expose the copper on remains and use solder and wire to carefully bridge the break, and put new capacitor on.

I ask, what is going on? They blew up or swelled up or torn off?

Second, these part numbers are not samsung true part numbers, unfortunely need to consult service manual to get correct part numbers especially samsung part numbers on this samsung panel.

Cheers, Wizard

[medamotcha]

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Foil is aluminum and solder will not stick or wick to it.

What we do this kind of repair, usually we carefully scrape away the mask to expose the copper on remains and use solder and wire to carefully bridge the break, and put new capacitor on.

I ask, what is going on? They blew up or swelled up or torn off?

Second, these part numbers are not samsung true part numbers, unfortunely need to consult service manual to get correct part numbers especially samsung part numbers on this samsung panel.

Cheers, Wizard

so how can i get manual?...help me please?.....ok i got ya on the other...but how to convert.....help me please

[medamotcha]

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is thair a program that would convert for me?like i can get from rapshire?.but is thair any other ways to do this..

[Wizard]

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There is very limited cross reference via google, and they are only for authorized servicers to access their service manuals.

All I can do is look up if I know exactly what kind of panel you have (sticker on the panel itself and a decent overall picture of the whole panel with the boards on it so I can ID better.

Also you need to answer few questions. What is GOING on with this and what are you doing right now, right now all we have is out of blue seeing pictures of damaged stuff and such like request for voltages, parts. What's the problem? Background of problem?

PS: when we appoach a problem, we usually ID what the problem is and usually check voltages. Plasma are very standard voltages (regards to cold ground) and it is called out on the sticker stuck to the panel's back somewhere. Remember do not use power supply heatsinks, you won't know which is hot ground or cold ground. Use the mainboard metal chassis or panel's metal back as cold ground for your cold-side voltage measurements.

Even mainboard uses standard voltages like 5V, 12V, 16 even 18V for audio and low voltages (rare except for signal (that is toggled high or low).

Cheers, Wizard

[medamotcha]

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thanks wizard, well here i go, the old lady was watching briity spears on tv...all that stuff waz going on...so its been awhile....ummm the tv just shut off......power comes on..like it gose to boot up,click shuts down...now it been awhile since in checked this out but what i can remember ..thiars a green light and a red light in the back....on the big mother board....but first the green light power up...the click red light would come on...and power down....well i waz doing some reading here..how to idenifing bad caps...well i found them...is what i posted...leaking surface mounts...you really have to look...leakage inbetween the cap and the plastic.so thats what i have done,tryed to get the caps that were bad and replace....the video board..that missing cap...it broke while taking apart.thats the tinfoil i tryed to use....i got that ill fix that...and post when i think ive got that.....ok you need all boards all the numbers and stuff..ill get better pics of the whole thing and numbers...thank you for everything.....

[Wizard]

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Are you absolutely sure the SMD caps is really greasy/oily leakage on the circuit board?
Can be mistaken for solder rosin (different type used for no-lead soldering process).

Anyway, I have seen not a issue with these SMD electrolytic caps on the panel itself on these strips of circuit boards. Be careful with these too they are attached to delicate amber/orange tape circuits.

Have you checked all the *fuses*? There is about 4-6 total. Two each on Y-SUS (left board), two on X-SYS board (right side), probably one or two fuses on the power supply for this kind of vintage.

I had some that shuts down or no picture because of bad board itself (easily identifible by checking the fuses.)

Y-SUS or the Y-SUS buffers (series of chips on vertical 2 strips with connectors to the panel itself) is the first thing to let go on occasion.

Fix the damage first then start powering it up and give us better description.

Cheers, Wizard

[medamotcha]

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i checked all fuses....thay all tone out..that was the first thing i tryed...the smd caps are leaking you can see the leakage .....you can all most miss the leakage.but the greasy oil is all over the board were the smd caps are....thats what tipped me off,i dident know y...till i did some reading on this site.than it made sence,that how i found the leakage.....thx wizzard...the sun aint out to much today to get a good pic ..ill try tommow..thx mang

[Wizard]

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Cool. Carry on.

Cheers, Wizard

[medamotcha]

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i have more pics...ill post later....let me know if this will work..thx

[medamotcha]

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ok what else do you need?can you tell how to convert what caps i will need?
or do you need some other numbers off the main-mother board(big one)thx mang...let me know

[medamotcha]

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is thair any way to use a multy meter on these caps?DC-A to test out?....wissard let me know,please.but any way how are the pics will you be able to read and id?i will be fixing the video board today...ill post the fix

[medamotcha]

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is this the sticker is what you need?i found this behind one of the power boards...or do i need to take off the main mother board?and look for the sticker you need

[Wizard]

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Need ESR meter.

First picture on this sticker is chart of voltages that panel uses, use this to compare against from Power supply and on two outer boards while TV is on.

Last picture is what you should look for particularly the type of panel it is.

Okay, check the capacitors with ESR meter. Once this is confirmed, then power up again, quickly feel the chips on left side just with one finger, other hand in the pocket.

Sometimes this fail. These are called Y-buffer driver chips on narrow strips of circuit boards. The larger board that plugs into the Y-buffer is Y-SUS board.

This is first thing we check for is voltage and inspect/feel the Y drive stuff.

Cheers, Wizard